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What do you think about balance changes regarding champions that were not popular but got popular rapidly without real reason ?
I'm thinking of varus. Before, and even during 2.4, he wasn't seen a lot, and people used to think he was "meh", as in "alright but there are champions that are better". But now he is seeing a lot of success in the competitive scene without any buffs nor any really impactful nerfs on other adcs or adc items.
Also I would also like to have your opinion regarding draft balance in general. I don't know if it's just me, but as a midlaner, I feel like I am kind of "forced" to play an ap mid. I like yasuo a lot for instance, but since there aren't any real ap junglers or toplaners, i feel like it would throw off the team balance to play yet another ad in the midlane. Right now as ap junglers we have evelynn which is a good pick against squishies but not that great against tankier comps, nunu but as a tank, his primary goal is not to deal damage, diana but she is just not that great due to her bad early game and is heavily outweighted by diana mid, and maybe some offmeta/troll picks. So yeah, how do you think AP bruiser tops and AP junglers would affect the game and especially the midlane ?
Certain champions being popular in pro, while being less popular for the general player base has always been a things. We normally see this on champions with high utility, where the general player base cares more about damage, and pros value utility.
Champions like this can have an impact on, but it's unlikely to be massive nerfs unless they were far and above others filling similar roles. If a champion is weak to the general player base, but popular in pro we might take action depending on how extreme it is. An example would be shift power out of aspects that are valuable in pro play into aspects that the rest of us can take advantage of. But we wouldn't want a champion to lose their identity,
Varus, Ashe, and Jhin are all utility marksmen that tend to pop up out of nowhere in pro play, while being seeing as weak to most players for these exact reasons. But that utility is what makes them who they are so we don't want to lose that. So it really comes down to how dominant they are pro while at the same time being weak for general play.
Edit: I realized I didn't answer your AP question
More magic damage in other roles would be nice, and I can't wait for us to get more champions to flesh this out. But even in the Horizon Cup we saw teams run full AD and end up doing fine (maybe too fine), so I wouldn't stress to much about picking an AD mid. Yasuo is especially good here because his ultimate cuts through armor stacking.
As for AP in other roles, Fizz, Diana, Gragas, Eve, and Nunu have all been doing fine in the jungle but I do notice that as soon as they aren't OP players start calling them weak.
It's also a very similar situation in other roles. Baron lane has, Teemo, Kennen, and Gragas doing well. While Ziggs and Corki are doing work in the Dragon Lane. Rounding us out with Brand and Seraphine for supports.
One here is that aside from those in the jungle many of these are seen as weak, aren't flashy, or nonstandard by most players and thus avoided. So it creates that feeling of needing an AP mid that you talked about.