[2022] Simon's Q is counterintuitive. is there a way to change it?

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As the title says. I just played a game as Sion mid on ranked, I assumed that since I know Sion very well, it will be a good pick to confuse opponents who may not be as similar with him. HOWEVER, it seems like his 1st ability Q is programmed differently. In league you HOLD the button and then release it to hit your spell. In WR it seems like you have to click your Q and then click your Q to release it. Is there a way to change it in options somewhere so it's what I am used to? Or am I just gonna have to adapt? On top of that, what the rest of playerbase thinks ? Do you guys find it annoying? I'll go as far as saying that this caught me off guard so hard that I effectively lost the game for my team because i couldn't land a proper Q. Not gonna lie, I'm kinda disappointed

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over 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by dvrsd

Roguefool talked about this yesterday on Twitter. Perhaps he can give a more detailed answer here 😅 u/R0gueFool

I did talk about this on Twitter!

Unfortunately, this is a fundamental difference between LoLPC's controls and our own. Any ability that you can aim must happen on button release in Wild Rift, whereas on PC it can be set to happen on button down. This is because on LoLPC you have your mouse to aim with at the time you push the button. Previously all abilities would happen on button release but abilities that don't have any aiming we can make things happen slightly faster if they happen on button down, we made that change last content patch.

Touch screen controls require any aiming to happen on button release unless it is something we want you to be able to adjust the aiming of. In Sion's case we would need to fundamentally rework, and reduce power in the ability if we were to allow you to adjust its aim while charging. We did make some slight adjustments to help compensate for this, but it still does mean that instant Qs are a bit rougher than we would like.

over 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by UnholyDoughnuts

Good question, this is because Sion can aim his first ability. It doesn't hit all around him like Diana's ultimate does. It would need to start casting as soon as you push. Vi, Varus, and other hold+aim abilities can adjust their aim, but we don't feel that would be fit Sion. - rogue fool on twitter

Someone asked why its not press and hold like diana

As a rule, though we do prefer you to need to hold a button for charged abilities. We feel it is smoother and amps up the feeling of the ability. We don't like to make exceptions, and put a high value on consistancy/clarity but depending on the ability we might end up needing to bend that a bit even if we don't want to.

over 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by Tekshi

On top of everything R0gueFool has mentioned, which he's the the master of controls. As a player, because Q is a tap to cast, it frees up your thumb to cast W in the middle of your Q as well. (If you had to hold Q, i'd imagine it'd be a lot more difficult to tap W.)

Oh ya that was part of it too, I'm becoming a forgetful old man now.

over 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by Coulm2137

To be fair, your reasoning seems very logical and fair from game development perspective :) . Doesn't change the fact that it caught me off guard and I lost the ranked because I couldn't hit my Q properly, but looking at the bigger picture, it does make sense. Didn't expect a riot employee to answer in this thread tho! I'm flattered

Totally understandable, as compensation here is a fun fact of something we added to Sion in Wild Rift. When Sion respawns as a zombie he has a small fear around him.

over 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by _ST9

Thoughtful responses like this are why I love riot

Thoughtful players like this are why I love riot.

over 2 years ago - /u/R0gueFool - Direct link

Originally posted by Mind_Of_Shieda

Hi, can I ask why you decided to make his ultimate unlimited distance? is this something you’re looking to change in the future if it ends up being abused or problematic? The ultimate controls feel way better than pc (maybe the joystick fits perfectly for the spell lol) idk just a lot more responsive to me.

On a side note, I also messed my first Sion Q in wild rift haha, but it made perfect sense to me afterwards. Nice job.

Edit: I wrote “future” twice lol.

We are open to changing it if it becomes a problem, but we think this is a case where the excitement is higher than the actual power, and that is a good place to be. It is always possible we are wrong, and if that is the case we'll reevaluate.

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