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Originally posted by Dwel111

See this is kinda what I was getting at. Y'all ignore the hard-hitting complaints like the blatant lie we were told a bit ago and the inability to opt-out of it and instead latch on to the easy to reply stuff like me talking about downvotes.

Originally posted by Dwel111

that's great that you feel that way, but just to be clear, there's only so much outrage because of 2 main things:

It's being forced on everyone, there is no way to opt-out of it besides modding it out (which while an option for us players, is not a valid reason to not include it in the base game)

The mere existence of this is a direct lie based on what we were told when we had the forced migrations a while ago.

And to a lesser extent, the complete unwillingness to talk about it. "but my downvotes to oblivion". Well, that's great, I'm glad people making you lose Reddit points is enough of a reason to not talk about it. Plenty of server owners have come in here with genuine, well-thought-out questions/complaints and are just comepletely ignored.

Originally posted by Klausar

I've had to actively stop myself from posting comments on nice posts in this subreddit lately because I know the answer will be "but chat reports!" regardless of what the post was originally about

People do that because Mojang ignores the fact that noone wants this feature. There is no statement from Mojang about why you care so much about the chat reporting when the game was fine without it for 13 years and the half-assed FAQ that's ignoring the main critique doesn't do it. Saying "we have a team of trained moderators" completely misses the point.

And to make it even worse you try to actively prevent people from using mods to disable the feature by adding indicators and making the mod less attractive.

Originally posted by EarlyReflex

Man, I sympathize with you having suffered what you suffered. I find it disgusting.

Oh we're still here, we're still reading... but this isn't an environment conductive to discussion, more a "the beatings will continue until morale improves" situation.

Yeah you may be right on this. But also, Mojang has to admit and acknowledge that they've lied to us and that we're angry about it. Please, own that. We do love you, but lies are lies, and they hurt when they come from someone or something you love. I think we're owed some apologies from Mojang for mishandling the whole thing. I do understand the reluctance, though. It's scary.

I guess what I mean to say is the scale of the situation means there isn't an opportunity for individual developers to participate in the way we like to

I understand that. But you did come out and talk. That's already a sign of good faith. And I thank you for it.

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Originally posted by EarlyReflex

That FAQ does answer some stuff, and that in itself is perfectly fine. But overall it doesn't do much more than answering yes to "is this black or white?".

There were good times a while ago where the devs and even higher ups would hop on to discuss issues with us. Have they become too important?

P.S. Thank you for participating in the discussion.

Originally posted by LizardOfOz_

It's unclear from the changelog [and the bugtracker] if the issue of the server being able to tamper player messages and force the client to sign a message (MC-253888) was actually fixed proper, or if this UX/UI change is considered a "fix", and a message still can be tampered if the player doesn't notice.

If the UX/UI changes is the fix, then it's a terrible idea - people do not and will not pay attention to this type of stuff. Even if you do, there's only so much time until you lower your guard down and open yourself for a grief.

People will send messages unchecked, and if there's no core fix to the underlying issue, then this system will make clients accountable for something they did not type.

While I can't say for c...

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