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Then what is that reason?
It honestly seems like you kept him because you're all friends with him. He picked you all out to be his mods after all. Your reasoning that "he does so much work for the subreddit" isn't fair given that SleekVulpine (along with Castle) did the vast majority of the day to day moderating I've seen on this sub. She's also clearly a hard worker that does a lot for the sub.
It honestly seems like you kept him because you're all friends with him
I don't know triple and new mods are chosen by all old mods together.
I really don't know either sleek or triple at all, but I've seen the situation unfold myself, and I don't care about mob mentality or the dreaded downvotes if it means fighting for what's right.
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Read more External link →Well doing my best to remain civil I will say that to me the way this situation reads is that Sleek had issues with Triple paying for her explicit content in the past and was afraid he'd use them as blackmail against her, and furthermore he expresses annoyance at not getting free nudes from her. Then an unrelated situation occurs in which Sleek stands up for the autistic woman's post and standing up for Virtuous, and she is suddenly fired from the mod team with no explanation.
I don't see how Triple's personal issues with Sleek aren't related to her being fired. It really seems like Triple was mad about their personal issues and decided to fire Sleek, an obviously hard working moderator for the smallest possible thing as a consequence even if they would appear unrelated on the surface.
Anyway that's the way I and many other perceive it. I hope it clears up why the people of this sub do not agree with the mod team's decision.
Look, we all get it. We expected this kind of response, but I can do nothing but assure you the decision is fair. You don't have to believe me and I don't blame you, but there is a reason why the majority of the moderators voted for this outcome.
If firing someone from the mod team because they wouldn’t give him free nudes isn’t sexual harassment then I can only imagine what you’d call it if an employer fired their worker in real life for not giving into their demands in a “consensual conversation”.
Anyway I said my piece but you’re going to have to do way more to save face hun
If firing someone from the mod team because they wouldn’t give him free nudes
What? She was removed due to a completely unrelated issue, and she never claimed it was because she give him nudes
His abuse of power was reprimanded, but was not that great to begin with.
So if it were worse, THEN he'd be punished accordingly?
What the f**k, dude?
If his abuse of power was worse, he'd be removed, yes. This was the first time ever he did anything major without asking the team first and has since recognised its severity.
Why did you and u/Draco9990 reply to me with the exact same comment? If this is a generic reply that you guys are all echoing as a response to all the comments, you’re making the problem even worse. You punished Sleek for Triple’s wrongdoing. She didn’t go about it in the prettiest way, but it had to be done or else nothing would have changed. You guys can say “Oh we would’ve did something even if she didn’t make a post” but seeing how you guys are handling this, I’m very much doubting that.
Now you guys are sending a scripted response to the community you’re supposed to represent in hopes of putting a band aid on the giant gash you just made. Have some god damn humanity and individuality. How dense can you guys be? I went from little hope to none.
I'm too tired to talk about other points, but just wanna mention that the reason why we replied the same is because I didn't understand what Nim told me in a private chat.
My university was the subject of a huge sexual harassment lawsuit by a professor that got national attention.
The university decided not to fire him because he had done so much good for the university’s fame and research profile and grant income. The students were outraged that he got off scot free for what he did just because the university valued his “hard work and success” more than the safety of their female students.
It’s the same bullshit excuse you’re giving to keep triple. Just because he’s a hard worker doesn’t mean he shouldn’t face consequences for abusing his power for reasons that were personal with sleekvulpine. He needs to go.
If you don’t want sleekvulpine back because she overstepped in bringing his abuse to light, that’s basically victim shaming. It would be like if smite told smitten and moggie to not take part in the smite community anymore for exposing dmbrandon’s abuse of power.
We are not talking about sexual harrasement. Their conversations were completely consensual, and framing them as otherwise is wrong.
Oh noes! How dare she publicly provide proof of someone else's wrongdoing! She should have just continued handling it internally where none of you did anything about it and let the situation continue with no consequences like a good girl, right?
She should have just continued handling it internally where none of you did anything
We were all shocked and unsatisfied with the situation, and it was discussed from day to day. Furthermore, she talked with mods privately before publishing her posts, and was told that she was in the wrong to accuse Triple of his character. She decided she felt that way and was allowed to post it, but as someone who sees a lot behind the scenes, it was disgusting both ways.
Well your judgement is skewed to shit. This was absolutely the worst way you could have handled this situation. This exact shit is the exact reason the MeToo movement exists. You have done next to nothing to actually punish the abuser while intentionally casting the victim in a poor light. This garbage makes me skin crawl. Stop enabling and supporting an abuser
I'm sorry, but I'll personally disagree. She and Triple had a toxic relationship, and she was the one being toxic in many many many occasions in modchat, just as he was. It is not fair to completely remove one side from any guilt just because they provided all evidence in their favour.
Edited because she wasn't an abuser and I was too harsh on my words. They were both toxic, but none of them were straight up abusive. I apologise as that wasn't my goal.
Even if a creep isn't a valid power, abusing power like he did absolutely is. In a real job, people who do that get 100% fired.
His abuse of power was reprimanded, but was not that great to begin with. He should've asked us, but hasn't. That's why he now can't do it without asking.
Read moreHonest question, did you guys even think about the optics of this situation? I really love the game and want it to thrive but I’ve come to terms with the fact that it never will and this subreddit plays a big part in that. The sad truth about most games nowadays is that a healthy Reddit community helps keep it afloat.
Today we find out that the head mod of the subreddit was abusing his power on multiple occasions and undermined the authority of all of the other moderators by making executive decisions without even mentioning the situation at hand to them. And what do you do? Keep him on the mod team? And then the person who outed him and brought his behavior to light isn’t brought back on and has to basically eat shit? Sure he’s not head mod anymore, but the fact that he still has a say in what goes on in this subreddit really rubs me the wrong way. And I’m not defending the way that Sleek outed him, maybe certain things were made public that shouldn’t have been. O...
I feel like I need to emphasize again that none of us agreed with Triple's decision to remove Sleek. Every single member of the team spoke out against his decision in mod chat and we did not only "make one quick comment and move on". The conversation about the topic lasted hours and the topic would not simply have been dropped soon after. The whole team was on Sleek's side and given some time we would have been able to come to a solution in a civil discussion.
It is very unlikely that Triple would still be head mod even if she hadn't made her post. Everyone on the team agreed that some sort of action had to be taken. The way Reddit works, that is something that can't be done "on the spot" but takes some time, because, technically speaking (by the rules of Reddit), Triple would have been well within his rights to remove all of us and run the sub alone or with a new hand-picked team. That meant that we had to discuss amongst ourselves and come to a reasonable conclusion.
... Read moreRead moreWhat sleek provided was her part of the story
Yes, and she actually provided proof, which is what you need to do when you make posts and accusations like that. You guys however are not providing any proof, so people are calling your bs. And since you guys condemned leaking mod talks, if you provide any proof, you are hypocrites.
We spent a lot of our time trying to reach a solution that is fair
If this is your definition on fair, then may god help this subreddit and it's users in the future.
Sleek was a good mod. BUT, so is Triple.
No. No he is not. And that has been established throughout the years. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Triple screwed up, big time, by removing Sleek. His punishment was that he no longer has an option to do so, at all.
This is essentially the equivalent of me shooting someone, and my puni...
And since you guys condemned leaking mod talks, if you provide any proof, you are hypocrites.
I disagree. We were attacked by leaking our private chats and if that's the course of action people want to take I can see with other mods to release them fully, without any screenshots. There were plenty of mistakes made on both Triples and Sleek's part.
But he is still within the range of power to abuse it over the users of this subreddit.
All other mods now have the power to overrule his decisions, and if he does turn out to be a problem, he can easily be removed.
Then why did you say that there were "number of past events, which do not need to be made public"? If you came to this decision just now, what happened to all the past events?
This really isn't a gotcha. The post was what made us rething the decision, but I will say there is plenty of stuff in the background...
Read moreRead more1) Triple was an average moderator at best. The person information revealed informs us of his behavior. He should not be a moderator. We have learned recently what happens when people who don't deserve power, have power. Let's not repeat this mistake.
2) If his decision was incorrect, it is your responsibility to correct the wrong. Reinstate the wronged person and reprimand them if necessary within the confounds of the rules. If he had not wrongly removed the person in question, would they have been removed? When they posted what they did as a non-moderator, to inform the community of wrong doing and general bad behavior, did they break any rules? If not, then you have no reason to not reinstate. UNLESS your intent was to remove this mod anyway. Which in that case would lead to another discussion.
To be frank, you guys are responding to this situation in a very strange way. Triple was and has been rude, inconsistent, and has clearly abused his power...
1) I know you think that, but Triple really pulls a lot of stuff behind the scenes. I am willing to provide plenty of documentation of him asking for certain events and really pulling the subreddit places. Most of that goes unnoticed, but it does happen, and if you request, I'll publish short snippets of it, without compromising anyone's integrity.
2) Agreed, it is our responsibility to correct the wrong. However, her post broke multiple rules we had and she was personally warned by a mod that was in touch with her that it was not a nice post. It wasn't a mod warning but a warning from a person who wanted to help her. She proceeded to go with the post, which we respected and kept it up, but the consequence is that we cannot allow her the mod position back.
Huh, I thought you were livestreaming, so wasn't expecting a responce so fast haha.
And Ok, I see the point of that list. I am glad they are getting skins, its just Its sad that some gods keep getting lots of skins but others are still so low. I admit, I am a bit biased as an Arachne main, and while I love each of her skins, still sad there are so few. And there are others still low that weren't mentiopned but they did get skins, so I hope they still get some more skins.
I know you don't want to spoil who or when, but it would be nice to know you plan to have other gods to catch up with the others.
And yeah, I know gods like Neith and Nu Wa get skins since they are so popular, and they sell well, and I get that.
She's getting one soon 😁
TripleCharged is, however, going to stay on the team as a regular Moderator with no more power to make executive decisions on his own.
I'm not so sure about this one.
Trust me, this decision was made without him. He gave us complete control to decide what outcome we make, and we thought this was the best way.
