JagexTimbo

Part one weapon diversity effects haven't changed (and won't be changed when the beta has been back up). Changes were made in the initial couple of weeks based on player feedback but there hasn't been enough feedback to make any further changes.

Of course, all weapon effects are still in beta and if there are any further significant feedback on the first batch half of weapon diversity effects, we'll make changes to those too.

Now that there has been more data, it has had an impact on the amount coming in - but not close to the same rate as the price drop.

There is a growing consensus that because GotE now exists, everyone is getting HSRs all of the time. I say to other J-Mods frequently, and only half-jokingly, that the RS economy is based about 70% on hearsay and rumours - this is another example.

With regards to changing the chance of doubling - not at this time. Perhaps in the future we could upgrade the ring and enhance its benefits.

They'll apply to legacy where applicable.

They're classified as short swords.

Ancient magicks already have diverse spell effects so they will not be getting any additional effects. It's worth noting that the effects listed will not apply to ancient spells, it is only those spells on the regular spellbook.

The dagger effect is an auto-attack whereas the 1H xbow effect is firing a second basic ability.

One of the aims of the update was to provide a diversity in the types of weapons we can drop as rewards in the future. Focusing on underrepresented weapon types means that we can drop t80-92 versions of those weapons in the future.

Any weapons not involved in the beta aren't currently involved for the update. We only had enough development time to do these effects, other weapon types will have to be looked at in the future.

You're welcome.

^{Good luck next time.}

Bonus XP would be an interesting angle and makes sense, its worth considering. My immediate concern would be that a player needs to 'work' to earn their reward, regardless of the fact that they're leveling faster - there's no immediate reward but a delayed payoff.

Still, thanks for the thread - nice to have discussions like this.

It's interesting because I've had a few chats about giving out lamps as rewards due to the efficient nature of leaving lamps until you're a higher level (which happened independently of this thread). The lamp scale is a percentage of the amount of XP you need for the next level so technically, although probably not practically, you're still earning the same amount of level effort regardless of level. Of course, however, earning 9k at 99 feels much nicer and would take longer than earning only hundreds of XP at lower levels. Giving away lamps is probably the worse out of the two options in my original comment but I wanted to weigh in on why.

I can see where you're coming from regarding juicy XP values but I don't think that would be the case. There are still plans for quests to have requirements and then awarding the over-the-top but traditional large amounts of XP on completion. Obviously the proof is in the puddin' so you'd have to wait and see.

Yeah I think there are two points here. First, we would definitely still award chunks of XP appropriate for the requirement(s) of the quest in relevant skills - that isn't going anywhere. Secondly, there should potentially be more of a nod towards making the "lamps" more tied in with the quest.

Worth adding my opinion on this as this is typically my decision. There are a few reasons why these quests in particular had XP lamps over awarding XP in general.

For quests like Needle Skips, Violet is Blue and Desperate Times - they have no, or very low, requirements meaning that anyone at the stage of their character can complete them. This would mean that if straight XP would be awarded, it would need to be balanced against someone completing it with very low stats meaning that it wouldn't award any significant amount of XP for mid-high levels. With lamps, they already automatically scale to the level that you want to apply the XP to thus meaning a more rewarding benefit to anyone doing the quest. There is an argument that a bunch of small/medium lamps aren't rewarding enough anyway but it is better than getting 500-1k XP in a skill of your choice.

I can appreciate, however, that lamps aren't exactly the most exciting reward to get - especially as you're extreme...

Not sure what I have to do with the design but thanks for remembering me.