we saw a few instances of this today. this is a new feature, pardon our dust
we saw a few instances of this today. this is a new feature, pardon our dust
Yeah I figured variants would have issues.
I know for me personally not being able to use variants wouldn't be a problem. The main set i want to be able to do this on is singularity, and I prefer base variant with that. But I figure if you guys shipped a feature like that you'd want it to be compatible with all variants anyway.
For singularity is this something you feel like mightve been interesting at first but then wasnt? Im curious to know for you what makes you want to go back to a previous level without the features and if maybe there wasnt enough clarity on what the features were in the beginning (we only have the videos in client for example but no way to play with it yourself)
Hi! Is there a Jett charm in the 'anime' bundle?
there is! there's a charm, spray, and playercard that will be available for each of the 5 characters!
Hmm thats interesting. At the very least I wish I could "go back," to an earlier tier of upgrade, and choose which tier to equip
totally understandable. the one problem that exists there thatll let you in on is that Variants dont play well with that. so if you did unlock a variant and wanted to use it on level 1 for example, some things would break. We saw early on and didnt account for it but for example on the prime vandal we spawn vfx on your reload based off of it being on lv3 or 4. so in a dev build if you were to force a variant onto level 1 youd see a random vfx spawn when you reload and its just disconnected.
the system was built for the singular purpose of evolution which truthfully isnt the greatest so we'd have to carefully consider any sort of refactor of the system to support something new beyond what it currently does.
im sorry and i know that doesnt really solve the problem for you but we're trying to pay attention to what players are really interested in engaging with to plan on how we may or may not move forward with evolving the systems we've built
Ah, so it's safe to say it won't be coming soon. Appreciate the break down though, made it easier to understand the problem even if it's more complex than that.
for sure. Yeah as of now there arent any immediate plans to change the system but we're keeping an eye on how players engage with it and what opportunities may exist to evolve things further
Was there consideration to making it so the kunai is held like a dagger? I would imagine there was an attempt to implement it but to keep the aesthetics, the team decided to opt to holding the kunai as a knife.
it was mostly from a visibility perspective, as well as opportunity for animation upgrade. If we held the knife like a dagger similar to reaver or elderflame, well technically you already have a spinning equip animation on that but not quite realized in the same way as it is with the current implementation where you spin it on the finger. If we then offered that as an upgrade it would be less impactful than the difference of holding it like a tactical knife.
additionally holding it like a dagger keeps the blade off to the side and isnt really as appreciated as much given its framing. in some cases like with reaver or ruin thats ok because the blade shape is fairly unique but in this case it made more sense to keep the design front and center
I agree with this philosophy, but what about people who upgrade fully but then decide they prefer an earlier tier, maybe with some of the effects and sounds but stock animations? Having an option to go back or equip an earlier version would be really nice.
I for example would love to be able to use singularity with the effects, sounds, and kill animation, but default model and equip/reload animations
all part of the same system. thats the BIG challenge. some of those things are linked and overridden level to level so for example the way its built out, level 4 (with finishers) is from a tech perspective built off of level 3 (with the equips and reloads) so one technically requires the other. A long time ago we talked about some sort of skill tree progression where you can choose what to unlock and when but that got thrown out as an idea purely due to time. These were pre-launch conversations and at the time getting a player driven choice in upgrades was not as important as just building upgrades period, so we had to prioritize what went into each system across the board
riot employees are not allowed to mention CSGO their direct competitor lol
we mention CSGO all the time. I even mention them in the anime video :P from a cosmetics perspective we do a lot differently so more often than not they arent as relevant of a comparison
Thanks for the response, that makes more sense in that context. I know you guys have also said that choosing our level of upgrades would be coming soon so it also fits that system in the future I'm assuming.
We're not ready to talk about that too in depth yet. Its being talked about internally and what I can say (as much as I hate blaming tech for things, I kind of have to in this case) is that the way we build our content, features at the moment are hard-coded to exist on specific levels, so any adjustment to that system would require a full rework of how we author our content. Its not impossible, its just a large task and so any change to the system gets worse over time the more and more we make. Hopefully though we'll have a solution to this in the future
On the topic of this knife and its animation, why did the team at Riot feel like it needed to be an upgrade, and not just included? And will the animation be reused at any point for future melees?
all of our features are positioned as upgrades. across the board on guns and melee's we want upgrades to be an opt in choice for players. what this allows is for a player to get a skin that they like from a thematic perspective and keep it "clean" with regard to what is different from the base game experience. The biggest example of this would be like for someone who likes the dragon skin set but doesnt like the anims for the equip and reload. we dont want to force that on people
The melee equip animation is really good. Now I really want a Japanese fan melee skin with color variants.
These skins are much better than the anime skins imo.
This is now possible :) Like with our other melee weapons we always try and build them as templates for more things in the future so a Japanese fan makes sense :)
I don't know if I'm reading into this too much but I'm kinda sad that they are strongly implying that they don't plan on adding any sort of sticker feature in the future. I get that the viewing angle doesn't really give justice to the artwork but I personally don't really care about the distortion honestly. I just think it's too weird that the sticker doesn't align with the gun animations but I get why some people would like them.
Stickers would be an entirely different thing. Similar to something like putting your own emblem on a gun in CoD, stickers do present a possibility of being a thing, we'd just want to be mindful of the placement of them. This becomes increasingly problematic when you try to consider placement across a similar gun-type with varying skins. For example if you have a Grid Vandal with a sticker, ez, lots of space for it, but what happens when you try to use that same spot (or something roughly similar) when you use a Glitchpop Vandal.
Does anyone have both binds near each other?
Im glad this conversation is happening. This was one of the very specific things we tested out when making this set. Putting the keybinds aside even, we wanted to just make sure that when a player, even more specifically a Jett player, used this melee, it wasnt confused for her ult. The original execution of this melee wouldve seen the same Jett design on the base knife and we felt like that was less appealing than playing into the character for it, so we then switched full on to using Jett's actual ult knife but that had a lot of "why would we do that?" responses from folks early on. Without the final art it was hard to understand the reasoning and felt like it actually took away something that was unique to Jett. This was the happy medium. We still wanted to do the Jett inspired equip animation and had to find a suitable knife for it, and ultimately this helped in the clarity between what was Jett's ult and what was this melee.
ive seen some bronze folks win fights against people way more skilled than them just by being aware and prepared. there's a level to which yes you'll be outshot and your aim and ability to react is certainly important but its almost more important to understand everything else in a game like this.
"where am i exposed from, who else is alive, where is the last person i heard/saw, where is the last person my teammates heard/saw, how much health can this enemy have, what abilities have they used, what guns could they be using and where should i be based off my matchup, do they know where I am, etc etc etc."
all of these factors make a HUGE difference in your ability to outplay an opponent, much more than "can i land the headshot better/faster than them"
I know it's rude, but I just don't see the point of threads like this?
Nobody is going to read a thread like this and think "wow you're right, I'm going to stop being sexist/racist/homophobic/whatever".
It's preaching to the choir. All you'll get is people agreeing with you and the people that disagree won't change. It's pointless.
but maybe someone will read a post like this and get inspired to step up for someone who is being bullied. it sucks when it happens to you and it sucks even worse when it happens to someone you care about, so if you or any 1 individual can see that and make an effort to stop it, maybe there'll be one less bully in the future.
Wasteland Vandal all the way.
yessss!!
surely give him a riot gunbuddy for this effort. would've taken ages
thats as good a reason as any. u/Deva_Way what's your in game name and tag?
i love that this video exists
This is so cool! I remember doing art like this waaay back before I even got started in my art career - but just purely with photoshop. really awesome to see the custom blender setup and posing to really make this your own!
We've talked about this a fair amount. We want to do it to and are working to find a solution