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How the game works:
-you build a military ship, you gain military rating (as seen in diplomacy in comparison tab)
-you lose that military ship, you lose the military rating.
Base line of this is 0, technically if you lose all your military ship and island defences you should get back on 0.

Now here is the issue:
-you buy a military ship from a trader, you do NOT gain military rating.
-you lose that military ship, you LOSE military rating.
Base line is not 0 anymore, it is negative now!
In essence if you buy military ships a lot and lose them in combat you might even end up with such a low military rating that in diplomacy other AIs will think you have no military at all and at this point diplomacy becomes really difficult.

If you buy military ships the game should increase your military rating, just like it does with building military ships, the baseline should always be 0 and should never go in negative.
If you buy military ships you slowly but surely screw up your military rating and how diplomacy functions.

Example: I have 100 military rating, I build a frigate, I now have 102 rating, I lose that frigate, I now have 100 rating again.
I have 100 rating, I buy a frigate, I still have 100 rating, I lose that frigate, I now have 98 rating.
And thats just a frigate, other more advanced ships have higher ratings.
Do that enough and you can see how it escalates.

I hope this gets fixes ASAP because I cannot believe something like this got overlooked...
over 3 years ago - Ubi-Karl - Direct link
Hey IIAc3sII, thanks for reaching out and bringing this to our attention.

I can confirm that this information has now been forwarded to our development team for further review.

Appreciate you for bearing with us and apologies about any inconvenience this may cause for the time being.

If we do have any questions or if any additional information will be required, we will let you know.
over 3 years ago - Ubi-Karl - Direct link
Hi again IIAc3sII!

Following communication from our team, I wanted to double-check the following with you, if possible:

1. Which trader are you buying ships from?
2. Are you using any sort of modes as for frigate you gain 4 points for military rating rather than 2?
3. What ships did you try to purchase (apart from frigate)?
4. Do you possibly have a save file that you could share with us for reproduction purposes?

Let us know and we will take it from there!
over 3 years ago - Ubi-Thrupney - Direct link
Hey IIAc3sII, thanks for getting back to us about this - we really appreciate these comprehensive answers to our questions

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I appreciate you letting us know that the issue persists even with all mods inactive. Just to reiterate the other questions we'd asked:

Which traders have you tested this with? Does it happen with all traders you've tried, or specific ones?
Which ships have you tried this with besides the Frigates and Flagships?
Did you have a save file you can share with us?

As you've suggested, we have tested this on our end. We've purchased every ship, and received military rating for every purchase. As such, we're looking to have as much information as possible so that we can try to reproduce the issue and investigate further
over 3 years ago - Ubi-WheelyDuck - Direct link
Originally Posted by IIAc3sII
-Ive already explained to you which traders I tested this on and what ships I bought from them, its all in the lists I showed you... (so yes, I tested it on all my traders, except for the ones in the Arctic because ive never been there yet)



-Same for which ships I bought from them, its all in the list...

-And I already shared my savegame with my google drive link...

I don't know what else to say...Even if I start a totally new game without a single mod active I don't get military rating from buying ships, as I have show in that screenshot with the -5 military rating.

If you need something else let me know, but the 3 things you asked in your last post I have already given you...
Hey there,

Thank you for your clarity and patience.

I have sent this information and your save file to the team for further investigation.

In the mean time if we can help further just let us know.

Many thanks,
over 3 years ago - Ubi-WheelyDuck - Direct link
Originally Posted by IIAc3sII
Yes I need further assistance, I was told to subscribe to this thread and then select "Notification Type" and set it on instant email, I did this, and yet I did not get any email when you left a reply.
I double checked my email on the Ubisoft Connect and its correct, so this leaves me wandering why I'm not getting any mails... (and no, its not in my spam folder either)
Hey there,

Thank you for your response.

Sorry to hear you have not been receiving these emails, please also ensure that you have not blocked access to your mail list and that your firewall is not preventing the emails also.

Many thanks,