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There is so much wrong with this update, I opened a lots of duplicates that are now all gone?
No, they're not gone. There's a display issue with the Collection Manager where you can't see both at once:
There is so much wrong with this update, I opened a lots of duplicates that are now all gone?
No, they're not gone. There's a display issue with the Collection Manager where you can't see both at once:
Read moreHi Celestalon,
Thanks for doing what you're doing to clarify things for people. If I may; I, too, am after some clarification regarding duplicates across Caverns of Time and its feeder-sets.
I opened some old gods packs followed by some caverns packs, and managed to get 2 copies of the Epic card: Crazed Worshiper - one of which came from an old gods pack, the other from caverns. Given this scenario, I have two questions...
- Am I now facing the possibility of owning 4 regular versions of the card through opening more old gods / caverns packs (x1 from each set due to not being "duplicates" per se, but rather the same name/stat/effect from two different sets)? Or is this a case of me NOT receiving any more until I get all OTHER epics from either set?
- Is there a way to consolidate the cards so that they're both from the SAME set? I know this is nitpicky, but I get a tad pedantic with the aesthetics of my collection and seeing two sets of x1 Crazed ...
I opened a wild bundle today (2 legendaries + 25 packs), rightfully assuming that I'd at least open all of the rares + commons from Caverns of Time, seeing as I own all of the rares/commons from the applicable sets (Legacy -> Gadgetzan). Not only did I not get anywhere close to completing the new Caverns rares/commons, the majority of the cards opened were cards I already had 2 of in the old sets. Not previously disenchanted, not currently unowned - these were cards I already had complete sets of in my collection.
For example, I had 2x Jade Spirit from Gadgetzan, I opened 2x Jade Spirit with the CoT set logo, meaning I have 4x Jade Spirit in my collection without the 'disenchant your duplicates' option in the collection manager. I don't know if this info helps in your quest to resolve the duplicates issue, but it really doesn't seem like intended duplicate protection behaviour. Definitely a downer, I hope there's compensation for the early adopters here.
Could you double-check? There are only 9 new Commons and 10 new Rares in Caverns of Time, so it's extremely unlikely that you could have opened 25 Caverns packs and not gotten all of them, if you started with having all of the old cards. If you're sure, please DM me your btag to investigate.
Are we not supposed to be offered a re-roll if we get signature of a card we already own? Because I wasn’t offered the option to re-roll Patches. Is that because I opened CoT patches but I own MSoG patches? Also, if we should have been given the option to re-roll, would it be a random MSoG legendary or random CoT legendary?
EDIT: Sorry, I didn’t think about it, but could this happen if I previously dusted and re-crafted Patches? I still feel like we should be given the option to re-roll, but maybe this explains it? I’m not sure, but i probably dusted him(?) when he got nerfed before.
Correct, getting a Signature no longer offers a re-roll of an existing card. That was the case in March of the Lich King when they weren't disenchantable, but is no longer necessary since they're disenchantable.
It shouldn't have rerolled Signature Patches... Can you DM me your battletag to investigate? Also, can you check whether you even have Golden Patches?
Read moreHey Celestalon, appreciate you taking the time to reply! Please hear me out, it is not working at a cosmetic-specific level.
The following is one of (many) examples that happened to me today:
- I already owned 2 golden A Light in the Darkness (Whispers of the Old Gods versions)
- I did NOT already own any golden Worgen Greasers (but did own vanillas)
- I opened a 3rd golden A Light in the Darkness (now a Caverns of Time version) *before* opening a golden Worgen Greaser
- I am a completionist so I do not disenchant golden cards. I don't think I've EVER disenchanted a golden card (other than ones I get a diamond or signature version of). So it's not explained by me having disenchanted away the golden Worgen Greasers before 2020.
The specific issues I ran into were specific to golden cards. I made an assumption that similar logic applies to non-goldens, but I'll admit don't know for a fact. But could you pl...
Ah yes, Goldens do not currently do what you're asking but it's something we've actively been discussing.
If I'm understanding you correctly, it does actually work the way you hoped it would. You will get cards you've never gotten first.
The piece you're probably missing is that cards you disenchanted (since 2020) count as having been acquired. Once you've ever gotten all the cards of a rarity, even if you disenchanted them, you'll start getting (random) duplicates.
To your specific list of points...
1. They do fill in holes, per first reply.
This is correct. Collection achievements are based on collecting that set.
This is the same as with normals and goldens. You may want both for cosmetic reasons, so we don't auto-disenchant them. We think that letting you customize that to choose to do so would be nice, and hope to add that at some point.
If a card is in a valid set in a format, ALL versions of that card will be valid for that format, so you can safely disenchant the other versions. That's the intention. However, that is not currently working for Duels (it's not letting you add old cards), which is a bug we're working to fix soon.
Owning a Caverns version of a card does count toward owning it. If you get Caverns Worgen Greaser, you won't get Gadgetzan Worgen Greaser from a Gadgetzan pack (until you've gotten all the Gadgetzan commons, then it's just random).
...If I'm understanding you correctly, it does actually work the way you hoped it would. You will get cards you've never gotten first.
The piece you're probably missing is that cards you disenchanted (since 2020) count as having been acquired. Once you've ever gotten all the cards of a rarity, even if you disenchanted them, you'll start getting (random) duplicates.
I've the regular Han'Cho from Gadgetzan and opened a signature from Cavern pack. But I was missing the new legendaries. I thought I could only open a signature from a card that I already owned if I have all legendaries. Is the signature protection different or is it a bug?
Every Signature card was an existing card. None of the new legendaries come in Signature. So if you rolled a Signature, and you had all the old cards that could be Signature, it'd have to be a duplicate of one of them.
I got copies of cards I owned but have disenchanted, like Worgen Greaser, before getting cards I have never owned. Is this intended behavior with the duplicate protection? If it is I guess I'm just crafting the cards I want instead of bothering with packs.
Yes and no. Duplicate protection only knows about cards you disenchanted since duplicate protection was added in 2020. If you disenchanted it before 2020, there's no record that you ever had it, so you can get it again.
As far as I know right now:
- There are no issues with duplicate protection; it's safe to open packs. You're getting duplicates because you already have all of the cards of that rarity, as is expected.
- There is an issue where if you have 2 of an old card and 1 of the new card, the 1 doesn't show up in collection manager. We're working on this now.
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