Hey /u/OwlcatStarrok thanks for the updates - I appeciate you must be getting hammered with questions at the moment.
Do you know when in Act2 the threshold is for when it would be safe/unsafe to respec? There is a big difference between "any time in Act2" and "After you have locked in your Mythic path"
Thanks :)
Seems to be the Siege of Drezen. If you do it prior, you should be fine. Also, a fresh update from the tech team - seems that Legend isn't affected after all.
Is it possible that issue with companion quests not appearing in Act 3 at all be connected with main character respec?
Hi! Unlikely.
Is it only respec of main characters or companions as well? As I made 30+ hours in ch3 after respec few companions. It would be critical for my time to drop this. Ah ok did not saw reply before which answers my question. So should not be affected by companions.
But other question arrives if I enter the respec of main character and the cancelled it, can it break my game?
Only main character. Companion respecs should not be causing issues. Not sure about the cancelled respec, probably shouldn't.
A fresh update after the patch: while some of the respec issues have been addressed, late-game mythic paths (Legend, Swarm, Gold Dragon, secret one) seem to still be affected. Try to avoid the feature for now, the problem is being worked on with maximum priority now.
Thank you for saying nothing. Come on, man; when and why do they bug out? Give us some f**king specifics so we can ascertain whether we're affected yet or not. What flags are f**ked up, from where and when? And in what ways specifically does it affect us?
We need to know whether we should just shelve the game or not, and you're really not helping by giving non-information. If my game is f**ked, I want to actually know before I waste even more time just to find out that I have to start over from the beginning.
Please keep it civil. If there was a ready list of places where the game breaks, I'd provide it.
Sadly the only way to pick out a specific spot is to receive a wave of reports about it and manually identify that it's caused by respec. Team's trying to solve it globally at the moment.
I see the patch just dropped on steam but it says
Known issues
- Re-training your character will break late-game Mythic Paths, such as Legend, Gold Dragon, Swarm-that-Walks, a secret path;
Does that mean this patch isn't the one that fixes it, or is that a different issue than the Lich/Demon one?
Partially. Demon and lich should have received their fix, but it seems late-game mythics are still affected. Investigating.
I'm still not clear after this if I can now use an old save, and safely respec, after installing 1.0.3c?
I would recommend waiting until the next update with using respec feature, just in case.
So if I'm reading this correctly, the original issue ones (demon and lich) are fixed now but the ones you listed are not. Is that accurate?
Yes, but the fix for lich and demon is not retroactive, with high probability the game will not be able to repair itself if it was saved after respec.
While I know it's not really your guys' purview, do you know if this bug extends out to respecs done via mods like Toybox?
Doesn't seem to be causing this exact issue, but can cause many others. So use at your own risk.
A fresh update after the patch: while some of the respec issues have been addressed, late-game mythic paths (Legend, Swarm, Gold Dragon, secret one) seem to still be affected. Try to avoid the feature for now, the problem is being worked on with maximum priority now.
I know this is a lot to ask - but is there any way you are able to investigate and let us know where the specific breaking points are for the non-Demon/Lich paths?
I.e. Act 4 Mythic Quest for Azata - X NPC does not talk, etc.
I think this will help a lot of current players on the "maybe affected" paths determine if they have to restart/go-back on a specific playthrough. Obviously, it sounds like the Lich and Demon paths are a 100% issue.
I'll let you guys know if I manage to pick out specific spots. But it's not easy to tell among bugs caused by other issues. Only massively painful points like the demon and prison are obvious.
Is there anything other than the prison issue? I got past that by using a modded respec (which also got rid of the double campaign map buffs from using the game's respec), but I've since respected using the game's feature several times.
Really don't want to lose out on a 100+ hour save if something like the entire latter acts won't work.
Everyone whose reports I've seen and who played demon either bumped into prison or played without problems to the end. So probably you're ok if you made it past that, but of course it's not a 100% guarantee.
Is there anything we should look out for that might indicate a corrupted save? Also do you know if it's caused by respeccing to a different mythic path, or is it just respeccing in general?
If you see mythic quests behaving oddly in later chapters (uninteractable NPCs, non-appearing NPCs, non-opening locations), that is most likely it. It is reported that demon breaks almost 100% if respecced, lich has a relatively high chance, for others chance to get it broken is more or less minor.
Caused by any respec that touches your main character, not just mythic path respec. Companions are not affected.
Do you know if it applies only to MC respec or even to companion respec? I.e if I as Lich respecced Wendu in act III but never respecced my main character, should I be fine?
Checked up with the tech team, it's only the MC respec.
Thanks for the clarification. I added it to the OP for visibility :)
Thank you!
Does it only apply to respecs of the main character? I've respeced some companions a few times but never my PC. Should that be safe, or may their companion quests etc break?
Yes it's only the main character. Companions are ok.
What is the issue caused that crops up later? When does the game break if this bug does appear?
I know that there's a high chance you won't be able to enter the prison if you respecced as a demon.
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