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Thanks for the insight, I didn’t know a lot of that.
Right now, I know that there’s a ton of skepticism when about the validity of the “manual review” label, (people just assume it’s bull) which leads to a lot of frustration. Is there anything you can say as to what aspects of an account lead it to be more likely to get manually tagged as a bot, even when it’s not? i. e. frequent trades, total level, xp gain, etc?
Getting tagged manually as a bot by mistake could be a number of things including incorrect labeling by a member of the team etc, unfortunately as much as I'd love to talk about botting and what flags accounts in the first place, that's something we won't do I'm afraid.
Let me make sure I understand the process.
The system automatically bans.
A random daily sample gets checked.
If your account is not part of this daily sample, you are permanently banned with no appeal process.
Agreed. That’s the double edged sword with automated systems that’s get rid of obvious bots is that real players get hit from time to time.
It's human error that acts as a double edged sword - even though we use very few of them, automated bans are actually very accurate (much more so than human) but they are fed from human learning to help improve and make them effective, otherwise they would be wildly inaccurate and flag entire swaths of innocent users, or be very niche and therefore not effective in aiding to take out mass amount of bots (contrary to popular belief, we do ban over 15,000 bots per day in OSRS - mostly made up of 'suicide bots' created to generate a small amount of wealth and trade it off as quickly as possible). Whilst the automated system does ban a number of accounts, these are from heuristics built by the team and are only made live after vigorous checks. When they do eventually get made live, they are very restrictive on what type of account they look for and are reviewed frequently. The vast majority of accounts are all checked by members of staff - hence where human error unfortunately comes in...
Read moreis this you admitting to being a bot?
We don't offer rollbacks for this type of situation I'm afraid.
Using any form of AHK can result in a permanent offence being applied to your account, the severity of abuse often determines whether you will get a temporary ban first or not. There is no "1:1 is safe" - even remapping keys using AHK will run the risk, and I suggest the use of Mouse Keys or remapping keys using your hardware vendors software if you're wishing to do so.
I’ve wanted to do this for a while, but given that the world hop limit always kicked in was really annoying. When I heard they revoked it, I thought why the hell not.
The purpose is more or less to stop the dicing bots as a whole. Sure, P-Mod would be awesome and help but that’s not the end goal. I’m honestly not going to stop reporting these accounts until all of them are gone and they have a proper prevention system towards this.
It’s to show Jagex that what they’re doing to prevent these bots isn’t enough and in my eyes it’s disappointing that a random player has to not only go down the list reporting all these bots, but also post it on a PUBLIC forum (reddit) for it to actually get attention.
The first 2 days went un-noticed and it took a further 2 posts in order to see a change (banning approx 38 bots).
It's worth noting that we're not banning the accounts because you're specifically posting about them - we already go through and ban them en mass, however they're easy to create and therefore show up often, and we have to be cautious when banning them as quite a few are often hijacked.
Also, accounts we ban won't show as random [#] names on your ignore list - that's only when we remove the display name on top of a ban.
Does reporting them like this actually do anything?
And couldn‘t you potentially blacklist any ‚gambling‘ related names? Eg. BET/ROLL ect
Reporting does help, blocking names wouldn't be too worthwhile as there are surprisingly players who are playing legitimately with the name with no dodgy activity and as seen from the screenshot they would just go to jumbled up names.
I've just banned (or secured if compromised) over 3,500 accounts directly related to this activity. There's things in the works to hopefully stem the flow of this kind of behavior long term.
Sounds like your account may have been compromised from what you've said. Please take a look at this article: https://support.runescape.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360000867958
There was no update. The last thread was removed not too long after a JMod asked for more details. Honestly, it sounds like we got bamboozled.
For reference:
- /u/JagexAcorn asked for their details in this thread.
- /u/JagexTyran asked for their RSN in this thread.
- There was also a third thread, but no JMod response there.
It turned out to be a phishing lure via Discord, we found no issues with the trade system. Edit: Offenders were permanently banned.
The bans valid, also please refrain from using staking bots.
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This player was banned across quite a few accounts. Should you suspect anyone else of using AHK, please report them in-game for Macroing and send information through to [email protected]
Getting a bit confused why a manual check every so often on the BH worlds isn't being done, Jagex has shown they can have real time heatmaps during DMM, it wouldnt be hard to have a few people on staff check on them every so often for anomalous gatherings away from the standard Edgeville BH pking.
We do clear them out often but there's the whole rest of the game to take care of too, and I'm sure you'd really start to notice rather major issues if we applied your method to our way of working. It's worth noting that BH Emblems would be much worse than what you're seeing if we didn't do anything.
As someone who has been pking since 08, it's pretty easy to tell when someone is AHK/scripting or actually good at the game. It's literally impossible to be able to click that precisely/switch prayers that clean in the following clips:
Examples:
Both of the players in these clips have received bans against their accounts
I really dont get it, they always have the same exact f**king look, with the same name, how does this shit not get fixed?
They're not exactly the same, very subtle differences can cause one solution to not work, and it's a very fine line of capturing and muting legitimate players.