Another shift in the Game Mode team leading to a 5 year drought of content ??? Literally we got almost nothing of value since 2018 beside Arena after Mortdog & his team moved to TFT... I really really hope Riot isn't gonna let League most important team in my opinion die.
Definitely not. I am actually investing more heavily into modes team for next year. The team has more ambitious goals for next year then this year.
There's a bunch of rioters moving away from other games into this new League project, I wonder what it'll be, but it sounds big
Who says theirs only one?
Yeah this is most likely either the MMO or Project L skins. Probably project L as that one is closer to release and this about the time they would start working on skins
He’s moved over to the gameplay initiative, onto the game modes team.
Too late dog on book champ inc.
I think you should make a Book on a Dog. Gotta subvert those expectations
All good... only thing that makes me a little sad (even tho it doesnt affect me directly) is still making you gain/lose rating even in 'custom games' per say - premade lobbies of 8. This just completely invalidates people going for high ratings cuz they can all be cheesed by party of 8 people basically boosting 1 pairs elo by matchfixing every game asap. It's not a massive problem but still feels odd.
That was a typo. You wont gain/lose rating in 8 player games
/u/Reav3 I recall you mentioning that Cameos were only supposed to be for the SF event, did they land well enough for you guys to keep them or is it only to provide additional variance
We still want to make a better objective system then Cameos at some point, but we weren't able to make one in the time between this and the last version
Have devs said anything about how successful Nexus Blitz has been? I'm glad Arena is coming back as well as RGMs in general, but I've been enjoying NB more than I enjoyed Arena. I hope NB will be back at some point (with adjustments to the current pain points).
Its performing ok, better then some past NB runs, but even that is about 1/4-1/3 amount of games as Arena had. Games are also falling off much faster then Arena
My one question: Does the UI know I want to play Renekton top OR Janna support?
yes, you pick 2 champions, and below them the lane you want to play them in
/u/Reav3 Are you or any other rioters able to confirm what type of mage Hwei is? Has been a long time since we've gotten something other than a burst mage.
A deep and complex one
Resign and I will
You got it boss
Does it matter tho? Don't the pros outweight the cons of not increasing engagement? Cleaned up code to work with, easier to make skins for, better looking skins in the future to sell, etc.
Obviously it doesn’t, that’s why we still do them
Is it theoretically possible for an unpopular champion to get an ASU?
Not that you have any of them planned right now or anything, just curious to know if the idea is on the table or if ASUs are strictly directed at popular champions.
Obviously a lot of older champions tend to have clunky kits that could use a full VGU, so I imagine that also plays a factor.
Totally. We are currently rethinking our strategy around ASU/VUs, and popularity might take a less prominent role in selection going forward (But will still be a factor, but maybe a less important factor)
Thanks for answering! But reave that was 8 years ago and it will be 9 next year. She has the same voicelines, same animations 😭 she still feels outdated.
I didnt say she didnt need one. I said thier are champions that need one more.
If I may, a good candidate for a CGU is Morgana.
Her kit dates to 2009, but she's a pretty modern champion. C'mon, small healing as a passive, her W being so easy to simply walk-away, her shield being strong but not so "useful" and her ultimate making people just walk away from her and stopping completely... Girl has room for improvement.
Morgana is one of the most popular supports in the game. She's simple but that necessarily bad. I don't see us doing a CGU on her anytime soon
Its really tricky, because whatever move Riot does, they would be gigantic criticized, even if it's a champ like Illaoi. Even old Asol that wasn't really played had a lot of criticize. I would love to see Illaoi reworked, she has potential, but her kit is really problematic, it's one of the worst champions to play against in the whole game.
Totally, but its a pretty big difference in how many players it disrupts if the Champion has a much smaller player base. Illoai still has a MUCH larger playerbase then pre-CGU Asol, who was the least popular champ in the game in some patches (Him and Skarner swapped depending on the patch)
So then reav3, can we at least agree that Miss Fortune will get an ASU for next year?
I mean we did a minor VU to MF during the bilgewater event. She could use more but I think she's far from the worst champion in the game right now.
Thanks Reav3! Also, a bit off topic but I wanted to ask if CatchesAxes's project still related to the Gameplay Initiative for League or is it off something else for League Studio since got moved to League RnD
He's still on the gameplay initiative.
Why do rioters just blatantly lie like this when the financials of your company are public information?
"oh boohoo it costs slightly more to update the game than it is to half ass a new champ (which already costs next to nothing) on our ancient ass game that's been going for over a decade" are you trying to fool us or yourself? Also, no the entire yearly salary of your employees is not "a cost" to your product, because we all know that's the only way you can even pretend it costs you money to do this. It's disingenuous and deep down we and you both know the effective cost of releasing and updating champions is zero.
League is made on the cheap and you make money hand over fist. You have no excuse, no justification and no right to complain.
Damn dude, you seem to have all the answers. You should apply to our Finances Team
Thank you for clarifying. I do hope Malphite gets a ASU one day. Rock boi deserves some love.
Same, and we are looking into ways to make VUs/ASUs faster. It's already faster then the past since we have a more robust outsourcing system these days. I know it doesnt feel that way, since as we have increased outsourcing, skin catalogs have got larger. We want to do more of them.
Hey reav3 are you able to share what the process of a CGU looks like as well. I know you guys have only done ASol so far, but is it something you guys want to do more of now and if there are any candidates you have in mind
CGUs are cool and we would like to do more. The problem is that they are tricky and thier aren't a lot of Champions that would be a good fit for a CGU. A CGU basically just takes the Art and Theme of a Champion and then completely deletes the current kit. The design team then rebuilds a entirely new kit, from the ground up, based on the current art and theme. So for Asol we felt that the Space Dragon theme was cool and resonant but the kit wasn't doing it justice.
Completing deleting a kit and building a new one isn't something we want to take lightly so it would have to be a case where we think the upside is high enough to take a kit (however unpopular) that some players have played 100s of games on and delete it.
I think thier are still a couple champions that could fall into this category right now, but we would have to find something new that was a clear upgrade over what's on live. If it feels lateral to players it would be pretty bad, sentiment wise
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