We really loved the idea of creating a tanky support. It’d been a long time since we’d made one—Braum was actually the last,” says senior concept artist Justin “Riot Earp” Albers. “But unlike Braum, we wanted her to have a darker past and personality
Is tahm Kench not a darker tank sup?
The goal was a female dark tank sup, which we don't feel we have yet. We have some darker themed female enchanters but not tanks
/u/Reav3 are you able to share if Rell can be played in other lanes besides support
I think she will primarily be played support, if she could be flexed into any position it would probably be top, but her E is pretty weak outside of bot lane
Could I bother you for another update on Sera breadth and depth now that she’s had a patch to settle
Where can I look for an explanation of what this graph means?
Hey Reav3, there is a bit of confusion going on at Mundo, can you clarify it? The Mundo devblog said we will get one more blog this year, then the roadmap said next year and now Riot Nyanbun on Twitter said it is coming soon.
Currently it's planned for very early next year, same timeframe as the Fiddle devblog was this year
Urgot, Swain and who is the name on top of Swain? seem to have most die-hard mains for niche champs.
Shaco is on top of Swain
Would you know where you the breadth and depth for Seraphine are right now
Yeah very high
Keep in mind her breadth is lower now because she was turned on later in the patch and breadth measures total games played in the whole patch in relations to other champs
Would making her passive notes only apply to nearby allies on Echo casts, but always applying to herself on all spell casts help remedy this? Less poke in bot lane, while not affecting mid
Edit: Typo
One thing we are experimenting with is making her E not do reduced damage to minions, which shouldn't effect her support WR while making her a bit stronger in mid
Hey Reav3, is the order for releases Tank supp-> Mundo VGU -> Romantic jungler or Tank supp-> Romantic jungler-> Mundo?
Nah, Mundo has like A LOT of skins we have to remake, including a legendary skin so he won't be that soon sadly. Current plan is Tank supp -> Romantic Jungler -> New Chamo -> Mundo. Can always change of course.
Funny just months before, they talk about how they are gonna "approach" differently about new champs. Despite her win rates is climbing every single day, they already decided to buff this cash grab bait just few days in the game.
/u/Reav3 you jokers should just stop talking when you always fail to keep your words.
We aren't looking to buff her overall, just her mid WR which looks a little low. Also with PreSeason hitting soon we dont know how that will effect her WR so we want to assess after that as she could go up or down when that hits.
Thank you so much ❤️❤️ will it be a hotfix oder next patch?
We are currently targeting it for 10.23 if it goes well of course
We saw that as well. We are currently working on a changelist to buff her mid WR
what was her code name in development? Was it Sensational mage?
Her codename was Idol
What, do you mean to tell me Karthus the Deathsinger isn't a music champion? :O I am shocked! Shocked, I say!
Not that he expresses it in-game through anything except his ult, but still! :D
True, Karthus and Bard and kind of musical as well
I have played a ton of Seraphine internally, and I don't think she feels anything like Sona to actually play in game.
The problem isn't that she feels like Sona, the problem is that she occupy the exact same niche as Sona as a music theme enchanter, her spells are strikingly similar, serve about the same purpose.
She is exactly what a Sona rework would look like and god knows that Sona need something else than cheese strat to be relevant.
Being skillshot dependant doesn't matter, Riot has a long history of reworking p&c/autotargeted ability into skill shot to allocate more power to it.
The real question you need to ask is: In which scenario should I pick Sona instead of Seraphine if both are available?
I would pick Serphine if I was playing midlane and Sona id I was playing support. Don't get me wrong I think Serpahine will be playable support, but I think she will be primarily a mid lane mage, which is different then a enchanter. Mid Sera plays like a wombocombo AoE ranged damage mage, which feels pretty different then Sona imo
This is not the time to show your face as a Rioter.
I don't mind actually, I have pretty thick skin. I love Seraphine as well, she is super fun to play in game :)
What about complete overlap of thematic?
I mean its our 2nd music champ. We have like 20 Champs with swords, 2 samurais now, several fire mages. I think its ok for champs to have thematic overlap as long as the champs feel different enough from each other. Music is a huge theme, and we could probably make another champ with a music theme and it could still feel different from both Sona and Sera. For Sona she is hitting the music aura theme. She is playing music and its effecting the allies around her. For Sera we went with a more rhythmic music theme, where you are casting spells and every 4th spell echos, kind of like how music is made on 4s.
All I see is just a Sona 2.0 with a little extra. Mid mages have been very lack luster tbh been the same thematic (neeko, sera) for a while. Maybe it's time for a male mage?
I think people should try her out before judging to much from a ability breakdown video. Many people had similar reactions to Lillia, Yone and Samira but once you play those champs in game they feel very unique and different. I have played plenty of Sona, and also I have played a ton of Seraphine internally, and I don't think she feels anything like Sona to actually play in game. For one, she is a VERY skillshot reliant champ which feels way different then Sona. The big reason she feels unique though is her music passive which makes each 3rd spell you cast, cast twice. This leads to having to think about which order you use your spells in to get different effects, and gets you into like a musical 1, 2, 3 and 4 rhythm when you play her that feels really different then any other champ. Idk, that's just my thoughts playing her of course, I think you should try her out for yourself before jumping on the Sona 2.0 train though.
u/Reav3 how do you guys pretend to balance her around mid if the players will probably play with her just as a support?
We believe she will be played support as well as mid, and we are ok with that. Her ratios will make her more the viable in mid, and since all her damaging abilities are skill shots it should be pretty reasonable to tune. There are other examples of champions that are tuned to be viable in both mid and support (Lux/Morgana for example)
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