SLG-Dennis

The biggest issue is that there is no filter and for some reason it didn't make it into 9.5 either ...

Wrong game, sorry.

No, it actually wasn't, it's goal is to support the economic balance in late game. It does have that side-effect, but the exhaustion feature is actually being scheduled for a makeover in upcoming updates to fix most of the problematic 'workarounds' and to probably try a bit into the direction some suggestions of players were, e.g. doing the limit in a different way, similar to what our stamina system might look like in the future.

The exhaustion feature is actually only used by very few servers as well, even though the interest of players in it was pretty high. It seems server admins do not agree.

Yes, sorry, I confused you with u/SoopahCoopah there, that is my fault.

Your calorie idea sounds like different approach to our in-development stamina / exhaustion (not to be confused with the server exhaustion feature) feature that is doing a very similar thing. There the problem is much more though that there is and will be massive resistance from our more 'invested' players against this feature set as the last thing they want to do is being forced to put their mining equipment out of their hands for even a single minute to do something else. I can sense a bit of a possible "Cart Controls debacle" there, so it's a feature we take especially long time and will do several extensive playtests on before we even consider presenting more details or releasing it to the public.

Let's spin that further:

In such case we also shouldn't have talents like allowing players to pick up all rubble in an area for a cheap single click. We still have it, because it is convenient and we like the collaboration aspect when two people collaborate. We're currently finishing up the talent rework that will provide unique talents for all our professions and we do have several other convenience things, but also a lot 'realistic' things.

I also saw you mentioned elsewhere that just mining by hand may be more calorie-efficient. I did not do the math myself and hence need to trust the work the balance team did, but they state that is not the case. Even if it was, the way to address that would be to make the manual labour less overpowered in comparison to machines that are supposed to feel like giving you the option to quickly and efficiently do things - they're not mainly intended to save calories. We actually do have changes coming adressing the fast levelling f...

I don't really see how it doesn't make much sense. Operating heavy machinery is a very hard job consuming lots of calories compared to an office job. But even if you believed that isn't the case, Eco has a lot of things it does for sole balance reasons, less for sense. (The way we 'wear and tear' barrels or in 9.6 the much shorter spoil rate for basic foods for the very same balance reasons are just some examples - at some point we need to abstract, typically players tend to point on the very fact stuff shouldn't always make sense as well)

It goes without saying that implementing a system like you suggested is a whole new feature that will take months to be correctly implemented, functioning, balanced and tested, while smaller changes are much more effective in that regard without introducing unecessary complexity, especially when we already have other plans for that:

In regards to storage, as I have mentioned a few times, the whole option to transfer things via UIs...

We at least have no plans to do so, but the calorie use is pretty minimal. We plan to monitor it and adapt the amount of calories it takes if it turns out too little or too much.

It is a very helpful change, as those machines are the main reason for reduced calorie usage in the later game. And yes, we're aware of what someone else had already said on Steam, the current workings of late-game making people only eat cheap food, but that is not effecting the quantity of calories being used, just the quality.

Next to food spoiling for basic foods being very restrictive in Update 9.6 we also plan to implement changes further down the road to fix this food quality issue, but the mentioned change here was tested both on normal servers of varying sizes and the one with WT logic, where the problem doesn't exist as much, given players are required to keep their food score up to a specific level to be able to add labour to mid and late game professions.

The feedback tow...

No worries, that is already planned as well.

That is what has been intended, yes.

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