kovarex

Originally posted by m_stitek

I'm really worried about the limitation of 1 Cargo Landing Pod per planet. That means this will always be a single point of limitation for megabases as it's throughput cannot be scaled up indefinitely. Everything else can. Is this the end of 10k+ SPM megabases?

Originally posted by poayjay07

Factorio is already a hard game. It's easy to forget that when the all the people active in the forums have hundreds or thousands of hours of play time. I seriously doubt most people who bought the game got past blue science. All of the DLC changes add SO much complexity to an already complex and difficult game. I can foresee all the negative steam reviews complaining that there are so many rules that it is unplayable. Maybe they are just going all in on their hardcore fans?

Originally posted by shinozoa

Are constant combinators limited on how many signals a single combinator can output with the logistic group change?

What if I made a long logistic list of every item? Would a single combinator output all that? Or is 20 the limit?

Originally posted by Mehovod

I have some questions related to request groups.

• Can different request groups contain the same item? I.e. I would have solar pannels both in solar setup and nuclear setup.
• Are request groups related to game or player? I.e. if you have blueprint with entity with group A would it appear in other entities when you place this blueprint or it would be here from previous game where you created this group?
• What if you created request group A but it is already presented in one blueprint with another contents? Then what happens when you place such a blueprint?

Originally posted by ZenEngineer

I wonder how logistics groups interact with blueprints.

I assume you can have logistic groups in requests and combinator in blueprints. I expect that when the group doesn't exist it gets created. But then what happens if you update it? You probably don't want it reset when you place another copy of the BP. But then what if you do have a fixed version of the BP, can you update the requests then?

Originally posted by bm13kk

On the screenshot with "request item selector," there is a separate tab for a rocket.

For now, we get only several space items

• platform
• hub
• grinder
• arms
• engines

Even if we add existing things (rocket silo, satellite, rocket part?) - it is not enough items to have a separate tab.

So I have a conclusion, that we did not have seen even half of the new space content.

Originally posted by superstrijder15

remember: you can do basically everything via remote view now. So it'll be a fresh start... where you put down bots instantly, then use your bots to manage things locally while also handling everything at home through remote interfaces and construction bots. And you can bring a space platform that you loaded up with 10 rockets worth of stuff, or 100, or whatever you want so you can instantly deploy a nuclear reactor or solar panel grid and use dozens of mines and assemblers to kickstart your new base.

It's a fresh start in terms of what infrastructure you have around you, but because you can take stuff it is going to be effectively straight skipping to blue science

Originally posted by apaksl

/u/kovarex in addition to toggling 'trash unrequested' can you add a once-per-press keybind so that a quick tap of alt-c (or whatever) will immediately add all unrequested items into trash without leaving the option toggled on?

Originally posted by Nazeir

I would argue ammo that's in the character ammo slot shouldn't count as part of the no-ammo rule. I think the no items in inventory is perfectly fine and reasonable.

Originally posted by fede1301

Those space platform building animation look so good, i wonder if every building will have it’s specific animation. Also the logistic groups will probably become my favourite new feature.

Originally posted by warchamp7

This made me wonder, what happens right now if you try to underground belt across water? Does it prevent it?

Originally posted by bm13kk

I am not sure, that plain "no gaps" will work for your goal. A spiral structure (like the Milky Way with only 2 arms) will have the same issue and have no gaps.

If you need topology solutions - you need to have a "clear" goal.

Originally posted by DrSouce12

Well I’m somewhat disappointed as this FFF partially confirms my main fear with the update - reducing the need/complication of using combinators in material logistics.

Why make it so easy to load the silo?

The core challenge to this game is effective and thoughtful material logistics. Making everything a requester chest that has access to the bot network simplifies this challenge to silly levels.

In the current game, one of the main distinctions that is noticeable between a good player and a great player is mastery of combinator logic. Now it seems like no mastery of combinator logic will give you an advantage over just using the built in request or function of the silo…

They left it open that there were niche cases where the logistics may be more difficult (maybe there is a planet where you can’t use bots), so maybe the entire game is not being simplified, but it concerns me.

The complexity of current combinators creates a nice reward...

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Originally posted by KyraDragoness

Tiles being instantly built is a bit strange.
Why not have tentacles that can build everything in a certain range, and the hub has its own tentacle to start with ?

Originally posted by kevihaa

The problem was, that the actual gameplay produced by this system proved to be incredibly annoying very quickly. The reason is, that you need many different items in small quantities to build all the platform mini-factory and the only reasonable solution to do that was weird

With that you could go explore planets. This sounds great until you realize that the player isn't quite getting anything useful out of any of this until they have successfully brought science packs back from another planet.

Sounds like they are solving some of the major issues with pacing that have plagued SE from the start.

Honestly, having the actual team at Wube act as editors for Space Exploration is a bit of dream come true, as the bones of the mod are just amazing, but it desperately needed to be trimmed and refined.

Hopefully when the Space Age fork of SE is released it’s able to incorporate these QoL improvements.

Originally posted by tripleomega

This makes me wonder about many things:

- If there are no robots and players can't walk on the platform how are things getting built? The devs seemed quite concerned when adding remote rotating of a belt that it might feel odd for it just to happen, but this is on another level and they don't mention it.

- How are we getting back down once we are up in space? The vanilla rocket doesn't really have a reusable capsule.

- For that matter how are items sent back down from a platform?

- Do we get to keep our inventories when going to space? I'd guess not as that would highly encourage manual transportation of items to space.

- If we need interplanetary logistics and can only send things one stack per rocket do we need low quantities of these items or do we need to launch huge numbers of rockets? Or are rocket inventories bigger now?

- If things get auto-requested by platforms how does the rocket know when to launch? Does it launch even wit...

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Originally posted by hanuke

You'd still be able to place an underground belt that goes between the two prongs of a C-shaped platform

Originally posted by usernamedottxt

Why no holes in the spaceship? Is it just to force size/weight to be linear?

Originally posted by [deleted]

I know people don't love to see criticisms about our favorite game, but I wish the audio team got as many resources as the graphics team. The graphics are incredible. The gameplay is incredible. The audio, well, the audio seems to be the red headed step child.

It's not really noticeable on little PC speakers but if you play this game on a quality sound system the audio comes up a little short.