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trichoglossusbee



26 Nov

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Hey :) just reposting a comment here from another thread to give you context!

Sentiment on removing the level entirely is split within the community, so we aren't doing that for now.

Importantly, progress on the crown grab fix:

For Season 2.5, we thought we'd deployed a fix that would help a large portion of these errors, but it really didn't do that for us. We've been working hard on a fix for this and explored many options, but ultimately, we're going to be deploying a change in Season 3 that separates the mechanic for grabbing the crown from the rest of the grabs. I am not very literate with game mechanics, but I hope that makes sense.

This should fix instances like this one - however, some misses will 100% be down to lag. Those situations won't be fixed - most often we see it when two players grab at almost the same time. We're working on improving visibility of your connection in-game to indicate when a player is experiencing high latency.

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I play keyboard and mouse too o_o I've always found if fine. I grew up always playing my PC games on WASD so it's completely normal to me.


25 Nov

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Originally posted by Funk_Funkerton

Slightly related question, why can’t we grab the crown while diving? We can grab tails while diving and it’s an extremely useful technique for grabbing ledges in Wall Guys. All of the previous experience we have with grabbing indicates it should work but all of a sudden you get to a final and dive grabbing is actively bad.

This one I don't know about myself. I'll ask it in our next huddle (I save myself tabs here of queries) and let you know.

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Originally posted by Alexthegreat47

However, some misses will 100% be down to lag.

Since you brought it up, I sincerely hope fixing the desync is one of your top priorities right now. Yes, every online game will have some degree of latency, but this game is by far the worst I’ve ever seen.

We get a lot of feedback on it and it's something we do take seriously, but it is a difficult one. I've not spoken about it recently with the team so next time we chat about it I'll come back here to let you know what's up.

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Originally posted by Funk_Funkerton

If the mechanic for grabbing the crown is different than grabbing in every other situation why do we even need to grab the crown. If it was changed to be the first person to touch the crown the level would be functionally the same and no one would notice the difference. People trying to grab would still win if they got to it first and people that missed the grab for whatever reason (bug or otherwise) would now get a win. The devs are clinging to this idea of grabbing the crown so much they are willing to make an entirely new mechanic to support one broken part of one level.

Totally valid suggestion, and I just discussed with the team to understand their perspective there. We're open to this, but we want to deploy the fix in progress first before exploring alternative endings :).

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Encouraging toxicity is not it.

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This is the cheekiest one to date. Boo.

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I am rooting for you.

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Originally posted by IM-A-BANANAA

Sorry, anyways you work for the team

I do! My comment comes in pretty late though; these rascals were makin' their pink lobbies whilst I slept. What fun to wake up to.

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I'm not sure where your friend was looking, but I have not heard of 1 Life, and Hard Mode was always intended for this playlist :)

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Hey!

So we've chatted and the sentiment on removing the level entirely is split within the community, so we aren't doing that for now.

Importantly, progress on the crown grab fix:

For Season 2.5, we thought we'd deployed a fix that would help a large portion of these errors, but it really didn't do that for us. We've been working hard on a fix for this and explored many options, but ultimately, we're going to be deploying a change in Season 3 that separates the mechanic for grabbing the crown from the rest of the grabs. I am not very literate with game mechanics, but I hope that makes sense.

This should fix instances like this one - however, some misses will 100% be down to lag. Those situations won't be fixed - most often we see it when two players grab at almost the same time. We're working on improving visibility of your connection in-game to indicate when a player is experiencing high latency.

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We kept this in because it's pretty difficult to keep yourself there - especially if other beans start trying to join ya, so kinda earned if you last the round.

I cannot do it for the life of me; guaranteed death.

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Originally posted by AxiniteExists

Hey! I saw one of the comments and to change to Europe servers which actually worked,

But thanks for the reply, And I'm having a blast playing the game, Thanks!!

Okay cool! Please feel free to tag me anytime if you run into more issues, and enjoy. :)!!


24 Nov

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Originally posted by IronMark666

Nothing justifies death threats or personal attacks in any way so anyone doing that deserves no understanding or latitude.

What I would say though, is aside from people taking it too far, perhaps a lot of the more reasonable hostility towards the community managers is fostered in the swamp of piss-taking and general shitposting we get aimed at us? I watch the Mediatonic stream every week and anyone who dares raise a legitimate issue or complaint gets roundly mocked or belittled, usually by Alan who shouldn't be the lead in dealing with the community on stream if he isn't a community manager. It was really refreshing to have Joe on last week because he actually seemed to genuinely care about the issues people were having and gave proper feedback about them.

Maybe the weekly stream isn't the right platform to raise issues, so we do it on Reddit, Twitter et al and get nothing in the way of timeframes or any kind of legimate transparency beyond "we're working on it" -...

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Thank you for the constructive feedback :-). I am just coming up to finishing my first month here, and retroactive stuff helps me understand a lot.

We had a blast on last week's stream and I'm glad you found it useful, and I understand about your frustration regarding updates and transparency. I'm working on improving that communication wise here - please do tag me when you see something and I'll do my best to see and action it.

The crown grab mechanic was the focus of conversation today for us internally, and I'll be able to give some updates ASAP on that once I've checked a few things off. We're about to stream though so it's likely to be tomorrow as we finish pretty late. I promise we don't dislike giving dates, but I've taken that with the rest of the feedback regarding transparency. We'd never want that to be how you guys feel at all, and we're working on improving tangible updates VS just general funposting stuff. This should be a change you feel really soon!...

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I've not seen this before myself - thanks for flagging and passed to the team.

Update: this has now been raised and will be fixed soon! :)

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Originally posted by garthstropicaldrink

If you’re all for open discussion can you tell us why the crown grab glitch on fall mountain hasn’t been fixed?

I'm actually responding to a thread about that at the moment, but just chatting to the team about it at the same time :) I haven't been hugely active on here for the past weekish so miss a lot of threads.

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Hey!

I am all for open discussions on anything to do with the game.

I just want to start by saying 80% of what we're see on Twitter are not open discussions. We get daily death threats and awful things chucked our way over saying the word yeet - let that sit for a sec. I don't think this issue is as deep as it's become, and I don't think it's OK to harass anyone online just because some have deemed a meme not funny. That's wild to me and I thoroughly discourage that behaviour. I get personal attacks too now - and I don't run our Twitter. Madness!

Your comment regarding updates is something we take really seriously, and we have a lot coming up for you! We hear you on that :). Stay tuned for plenty of updates on S3 soon on that profile, and our other channels. We have a GREAT discord run by a bunch of fantastic jellybeans that you might find a better way of getting communications than our Twitter, for example.