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Originally posted by Naut1c

hi eugene, probably you know this already, but i think maybe your current way of dealing with persistence is not optimal. even server restarts that break writes, should not cause a wipe of any sort.

instead it should be some kind of eventsourced system, where every change is written incrementally, without affecting a 'big state file'. only the loading of these incremental changes would then evaluate the current and complete state.

so this means, even if the server is killed within a write, only one change file would be broken. and when it is, you just leave it out when loading the state, as if it never happened.

this system would not only make youre persistence much more stable, it would also make it easier to reproduce and tackle bugs within persistence.

of course it is a challenge to get it right and performing well. but i believe this is the way to go.

Originally posted by Doyler92

It's sad that after years of waiting you guys decide that you can't work for a few more months to make it actually work right. This decision to just rush it out to a final release sucks.

Originally posted by ZomboWTF

hey eugene, have you guys considered using an sqlite file based db to gradually save change to the world? in this way you wouldnt have to rewrite a whole file everytime a server kicks the bucket

sqlite has a few limitations though

Originally posted by zombietopm

I placed a tent yesterday on my prod server around 2pm cst. Some time between then and now, there were a hand full of crashes. During that same time, my dev server was up and crashed 0 times. Tent on prod is gone. Tent on dev is still there. I've got my crash log if you wanna look at it.

Originally posted by The_Eastman

So just to be clear we are talking about the same thing here. Having the server write to a temp file first instead of directly, is something that would take months to optimize?

Originally posted by zombietopm

You're not able to reproduce it in house because you need people actually playing the game. These are player caused crashes. I've got a dev server and a prod server. Both identical right now. My dev box I forgot to shut down yesterday and has been up running for 18 hrs. The tent I placed yesterday to test forced terminations is still where I left it, obviously because the server never crashed in the 18 hours.

My prod server that actually has players on it, has crashed like 3 times in those 18 hrs. At some point my buddies barrel disappeared. But just one. His other one that was right next to it is was still there.

Also before I modded my servers, I had placed 3 tents and went to loot more. Crash happened. Worked my way back to the tents and 1 had vanished. Day or so later, they were all gone.

Also just last week I spawned in a bunch of stuff to build a few towers and a big compound. It last like 3 days. Then vanished.

Originally posted by Doyler92

Doesn't this just mean "no because we don't have time"?

Originally posted by JHandz

50,000 people used to live here

Originally posted by BobDoleWasAnAlien

2 weeks to go to somebody's wedding isn't unreasonable?

Originally posted by kbaldi

I read it on the DayZ forums a while back. I'm not sifting through all that again to find it for you. Maybe it has something to do with DayZ not being a UWP. I don't know. Maybe u/RaptorM60 could shed some more light on it.

Originally posted by oxide-NL

The fact that they did this rather quietly without major announcements

And the fact that they disabled the like/dislike on the Youtube video DayZ BETA Update Dev Log

I think that's rather telling... doesn't raise much hope

Originally posted by hypelightfly

But the thing is, having a clear release deadline on your ass (pardon my french) accounts for something. You know that the year is your deadline, and so you make sure to get the most out of a situation you have.

f**k you (pardon my french) it's your own self imposed deadline. You don't get to make an arbitrary deadline and then throw your hands up and claim there is nothing you could do about it.

Originally posted by The-Respawner

Interesting, thanks for chiming in! This is all based on information I have gathered from comments during previous discussions like this, so it's not something I made up myself. Seems that the only thing that was directly "wrong" though was that I thought there were investors aswell.

Even Hicks have been carefully but obviously hinted that the DayZ developers do not want to release this year, but that it is the Bohemia management that is pushing them to release this year, no matter what state the game is in. More and more content is already being pushed back to a late date, but you will still release 1.0 this year.

Can you confirm whether or not most of the DayZ developers agree with releasing the game this year, with all the content that is missing? Again, the way current and previous DayZ developers responds to questions like this during interviews, they all seem super uncomfortable. Most devs are usually super happy and looking forward to releasing their game, t...

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