Rainbow Six Extraction Dev Tracker

I mentioned expectations as Extraction has always been advertised as it was going to be a full price AAA game using the Siege Operators. But all of a sudden, people are acting as if it was a fast one that was pulled. No one was deceived yet the community is acting as if they were and fabricated these expectations themselves.

You state it as fact that the majority of Extraction is taken from Siege. Aside from the common Operators and weapons/gadgets/Outbreak Enemies, the rest of the stuff is new.

If you create brand new Ops/Enemies/Weapons, it ceases to be a Rainbow Six game.

You’re also ignoring the new stuff, which includes 12 maps that are all 3 times the size of Siege maps that are brand new. There’s new gadgets and new enemies as well. Don’t forget the tweaks to certain Operators’ gadgets.

Don’t forget the entire progression structure, both on a general level and Operator level. Something that doesn’t exist in Siege. There’s also the MIA syst...

You cannot currently pre-order the game on digital console storefronts. You will be able to once the new exact release date has been revealed.

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Nothing to share about any price lowering but just want to clarify that there won’t be a price advantage to purchasing the game after release unless it is during a sale. You’ll pay the same price now than you would on release day.

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Not if long before the assignment was submitted you made it clear that certain things (in this case the Operators) were going to be reused. As was the case here as it has always been clear that Extraction would be using the Operators from Siege.

Yet the community seems to be completely taken aback that the same Operators have been used.

The community created this expectation themselves for some reason despite the initial teaser from E3 clearly only featuring Siege Ops.

Game Level Code and Account Level Code are two very different things.

Yes the two games are made using the same base engine in Anvil but you cannot underestimate the complexity of trying to adapt modern things like Crossplay and Cross Progression to a 6 year old game and these things have nothing to do with assets, animations etc.

I would recommend listening to the recent episode of the Hot Breach Podcast where 2 of the Siege team members explain how much Account security has made it very difficult for them to implement a Streamer Mode in Siege among many other things. Complexity is why it's taking longer to implement the Console Crossplay in Siege as well.

I cannot stress enough that unless a game is built from the ground up with these things in mind from Day 1, it's really difficult to implement them after the fact. It's never as simple as we think.

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For 2 separate games to have cross inventories BOTH of those games would have had to have been originally designed with that feature in mind from day 1.

When Siege was released in 2015 the concept of Crossplay and Cross Progression was merely just that, a concept.

You cannot just magically wave a wand and have 2 games, released 6 years apart have a cross inventory function.

I also feel you are upset based on the assumption that you will need to pay for a skin that’s similar to one in Siege.

There is a famous saying about what happens when you make assumptions.

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It would only be if you bought your one from one of their digital stores. If you bought retail it would be a different story. You’d need to open a support ticket with one of them.

This refund for consoles is a Sony/Microsoft only process so it will not affect PC versions

As I said the exact same day the game was originally, NEVER SAY NEVER but yes January should be the final date

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I can say with certainty that Castle was not confirmed in any promotional art.

I can't say whether or not he'll be in the game but I will point you towards this video from CoreRoss which talks about reinforcements and Doors in Extraction which may make you feel differently about if Castle would be a good fit for Extraction.

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The comment from /u/UpComin which contains a link to answer from the recent AMA is the best response to that question I think.

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The Containment event in Siege will have been worked on for several months. It was always planned to release on the date it did and the delay to Extraction had zero baring on it. Your assumption is off base as Containment and Extraction have no bearing on one another even if Containment is totally inspired by Extraction.

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I'm pretty sure it's explained in Outbreak but essentially I believe Ash was first drafted in to assess what was going on in ToC as an expert. They had no idea what was was causing the issue and the possibility of biological terrorism couldn't be ruled out. It's Ash who asks Six to bring in some of Rainbow to tackle the outbreak and suggests recruiting the GIGN experts in Lion and Finka.

In Extraction a specialist branch in the form of REACT has been formed to deal with the situation.

I cannot argue that the Archaens don't feel out of place in a Rainbow Six game but it's been clarified that both Outbreak and Extraction are considered non-canon to the story of Siege and take place in an alternate universe/reality. Consider them "what-if?" scenarios.

I can say having played the entire game extensively that Extraction has more in common with the original 1998 Rainbow Six game than even Siege does. Suspend your disbelief on the Archaens and yo...

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“Ubisoft recently announced that the launch of this title has been moved out to January 2022. If you have pre-ordered the game on PlayStation or Microsoft platforms then your order has been automatically cancelled, and you will need to re-order Rainbow Six Extraction once the game is available on those platforms again.

For the latest updates on when the game will be available to pre-order again, visit the official Rainbow Six Extraction news & updates page.”Basically, this is common practice on for console storefronts when a new exact release date hasn't been revealed. Rest assured the game will be back up for pre-order again in the not too distant future!

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“Ubisoft recently announced that the launch of this title has been moved out to January 2022. If you have pre-ordered the game on PlayStation or Microsoft platforms then your order has been automatically cancelled, and you will need to re-order Rainbow Six Extraction once the game is available on those platforms again.

For the latest updates on when the game will be available to pre-order again, visit the official Rainbow Six Extraction news & updates page.”

Basically, this is common practice on for console storefronts when a new exact release date hasn't been revealed. Rest assured the game will be back up for pre-order again in the not too distant future!

Thanks a million :)
AJ

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Yes there is a progression system in the game and it has a couple of aspects to it. I can't say anymore than that right now but the short answer to your question is YES!

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Here’s the reason they decided to have no new Operators in Extraction: https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/rainbow-six-extraction-will-only-feature-operators-from-siege-2982808?amp

And yeah they used to release 8 Ops per year. But they didn’t start working on those 8 at the beginning of that year. They started working on them months and months and months in advance. Some Ops are getting worked on right now that we won’t see until 2023. It’s not as simple as you start working on a Op and bang exa...

Most players have no concept of how long it takes to develop a single Operator in Siege. From concept to actually getting them in game, it takes about 9 months. Maps take a similar amount of time. There’s 12 Maps that are unique to Extraction. 12 HUGE maps.

Never was it suggested that Extraction would have unique Operators. This is something that the community has taken upon themselves to complain about but they created this expectation themselves out of thin air.

Copy Paste by definition implies that the Operators in Extraction are exact carbon copies of the ones in Siege. That’s not the case. Most if not all the Operators in Extraction are slightly different to their Siege counterparts. Their gadgets perform slightly differently as they have been adapted to fit the Archaens. If we take the example of Chanka. He is different than Siege as he has access to his turret in Extraction, which he does not in Siege.

Are there some that behave exactly like in Siege? Yes. Sledge comes to mind but if it’s not broke don’t fix it IMO.

You’re also ignoring that Extraction Ops are not limited to the load outs that you have in Siege.

You’re also ignoring the Extraction exclusive secondary gadgets.

I could go on but I think I’ve done

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Just want to clarify that there will not be Extraction exclusive Operators.