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Again read the Symposium and the Laws. It's impossible to engage in this conversation fully if you're just reading facts about it.

Specifically the exerpt about Achilles and Patroclus is a character speech. But beyond that, the laws are written about Plato's ideal society - one in which sexuality just wouldn't exist at all. Plato's later beliefs ALSO very much condemned heterosexual activity, acknowledging that it was necessary for procreation, but that it was really a distraction and wasn't really a virtue. This doesn't necessarily mean that people couldn't love each other, just that sexual acts were unnecessary and wrong. His condemnation didn't include any laws that actually prohibit sex of any kind. Rather, he proposed that Sex itself be seen as unsavory, and homosexual sex (obviously done without the intent of procreation) be seen as socially reprehensible - like incest.

Hey! There are 2 episodes here, and we're looking to source/add the rest: https://soundcloud.com/thegreenroompodcast1

Can confirm: This is not any of her Card Arts :)

You are correct in that this is not Card Art. :) The official Card Art for Morgan Le Fay is part of the Patch Badge that was tweeted a little earlier, for those curious: https://twitter.com/SMITEGame/status/1397206280842907660

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I did not intend to "encourage you to report bad players" And in, fact you should not report people who are trying their best but struggling.

You should report people who are not playing their role, or AFKing, not fighting, spamming taunting following you instead, etc - i said this pretty clearly in one of my responses too.

My main point of all the these lengthy responses to you is - people are inconsistent and going to have bad games - that doesnt mean matchmaking is broken - it also does not mean you should report them either tho.

You seem to be misinterpreting just the very short phrase i used in the very first response to you (sounds like OPs playgroup should use the report button more) - and that was intended just to clarify that you have that option when people arent even trying to play the game, but it sounds like you always thought they were even in some of your more egregious examples? Which i guess is my mistake.

I even looked up multiple g...

Each ability says its energy gain, and the ult says how much it costs. Can you show me what your descriptions look like because I see them there in game on each ability and how much they give.

You say it was common for them to believe this but it was also common to believe against it.

This is just a standard that can't be proven. That's more the problem. We have evidence to support that the view was pretty common. Again, in context, Phaedrus wouldn't just assume that people thought Achilles and Patroclus were lovers, unless there was a common opinion that they were. As well as the fact we've seen it referenced often (with little to no evidence suggesting there was some big dissent on the topic - at least that we've discovered so far) from ancient texts we've recovered.

The description was "changed to be more accurate" implies that one interpretation is inaccurate while the other is accurate with hirez claiming that the updated one is the correct one and the other one is wrong. Do you not see the issue here?

This is just misreading the change. It wasn't done for "historical accuracy", or at...

I am not arguing that the interpretation does not exist. Of course it does. I'm arguing on its validity.

Then this is where we're going to fundamentally disagree.

I see (and I imagine many others do as well) that the simple fact this was a common assessment even within the culture itself as enough evidence to see it as a valid interpretation. The fact that we have ancient writing in which a character giving a speech very much just assumes that the audience would accept that Patroclus and Achilles were lovers is enough to say that within the culture, this wasn't an uncommon view of their relationship. And if we're going to accept that it was a common interpretation, then it seems like a totally valid interpretation today. Rather than just a 'meme' that's propagated by the west.

To give more context here, this is why I wouldn't necessarily view Gilgamesh/Enkidu the same way, even though they have the same types of language in dire...

From what I'm seeing in live, book of thoth is giving power properly based on its mana. Book of Thoth does not increase power based on stacks, it increases mana, and converts 7% (10% when evolved) to power. So a Book of Thoth fully stacked on its own gives 180 power.

Right now from what I can tell it is working - were you seeing something different?