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Well I'm pretty biased, obviously, but I tend to disagree with the statement: "SMITE's gods lack skill expression"

From every season of SMITE, we have sought to create a diverse roster. This comes from visuals, cultural inspiration, class, role, and gameplay.

Over the years, we have created very few gods that are specifically "simple" or "easy" - And I think we have found a really great balance between kits that are accessible, yet offer a lot of deeper gameplay choices for more experienced players.

I also don't agree at all with the concept that "ability 1 should interact with ability 2" type example you gave for Hera - and I have written an entire article about this before.

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Thanks for the additional writeup, I'm doing my best to understand player concerns and take steps to solve them, and I'm glad that people are feeling that.

However, even after reading your most recent post, I still feel that you are using the term "matchmaking" incorrectly. Not just in regards to SMITE, but in regards to all multiplayer gaming.

My previous post already explained it, but i'll try to restate the most important parts.

• MMR is determined entirely from wins and losses.

• Matchmaking only cares about MMR and player level - we look to group players with the same experience and same skill level as closely as possible.

All of these factors you are describing have no direct impact on matchmaking. They could, however, have an indirect on matchmaking.

• Higher player levels SHOULD know how to play their role and how to team fight

• Higher MMR players SHOULD be able to hit their skil...

1) no - they are entirely separate. If your brother only plays ranked, when he switches back to casual he will start by playing against 1500 MMR players

2) its an average - it doesnt use rank - it uses MMR - so if you queue as a 1500 player and a 2000 player - it counts you as 2x 1750 players - and the other 8 players will aim to be close to 1750

Your initial comment pretty much nailed it, so i didnt feel the need to reply right away. So id say your course of action was fine - you didnt say anything outside of normal player logic.

I havent gotten any messages or mentions, but the thread did continue to grow... mostly a place for people to vent it seems. But im not seeing any specific matchmaking information here.

Id still be happy to take a look into OPs history if they send me an IGN/Match ID - but i realize im late to the party so maybe wont get much response.

Thanks!

6am ranked conquest is going to be low population and can result in this type of match.

Id expect more normal hours to be much better though based on the populations we are seeing for NA-West

SMITE does not stack lower MMR players with parties.

The matchmaker will aim to get the entire 10 players within the closest MMR and level of each other as it would for any other match.

This is often complicated when players create parties with wide MMR or level differences within the party, though.

Usually the easiest way to contact me is when i reply in the thread asking for IDs, which I havent done here yet. Thanks for linking the previous post!

I didn't come as quickly to reply here because what OP is describing is not really a matchmaking issue. Its a player behavior or playerbase culture issue.

SMITE matchmaking is built off wins and losses, there is no individual performance factor (for good reason)

SMITE behavior moderation includes lots of auto detection for issues like feeding, afking, refusing to fight, refusing to play role, and similar issues. This is all tracked and included with the report. See here: ...

Short Answer: it shouldnt

Long Answer:

Seems you already know this, but it can happen if the queue size is really low, or it could be from somewhat rare or unintended bugs. Most of the complaints ive seen regarding this come from the early morning hours, where there are not that many people queueing. But i still like to check and make sure.

If you can provide a match ID, or a smiteguru link to the match, or anything I can look into it and confirm.

Lots of people using this thread to kinda dogpile on SMITE matchmaking, but matchmaking is pretty simple:

The Queue Pops - matchmaker takes the top 10 MMR players in the entire queue - makes that match - then balances the teams by average MMR for those 10 players only - then repeat for players 11-20, 21-30, etc.

If the top 10 happens to include a huge range of MMR (because not enough people are in the queue at that time) - the result can be these type of matches, like OP described, but th...

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