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Originally posted by Foxy-Fill

If your ideal win rate for a new god is middle of the pack does that mean the gods true overall win rate or just factoring in matches where only one team has the new god.

Using Tsukuyomi as an example he was on both teams in nearly every casual match for a long time. That would dilute the win rate for a new god correct?

A second point is just that it SEEMS like the new gods are just inherently better than the old ones. Now obviously you have all of the data and like you addressed in the post their design is influenced by thematic ideas. The thing for me and I’m sure a lot of avid players like myself is that we’ve seen the same gods be dominant for a long long time.

I watch the spl every week constantly. There’s a reason why for weeks and even up to months - possibly over a year in some cases - gods like Persephone, Cthulhu, and Yemoja have been top picks and bans. Merlin, Heim, and Arthur FINALLY god put in a decent place.

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Originally posted by NathairFaen

I do not know if you are still responding to this stuff, but if you have the time, I have a quick question. Is his ult supposed to act like a DoT? Because functionally that is the only reason I can think of that his ult follows banishes, and untargetable ults. Is that intended? Gods that normally would counter his ult and just trade them like arachne or freya, just die anyway

As a long time smite player his ability to break what has been constants in the game for years is where the majority of the frustration in his kit comes from. It follows untargetable enemies while doing damage, it does similar damage to single target/ high skillshot ults, while being extremely safe (in comparision), aoe, and fast to activate/not extremely hard to hit.

Originally posted by 13-Snakes

You do realize you say that teams in play test worked together to counter him, but then make him playable in a game when 50% of players can’t see him prior to locking in their champ.

Originally posted by jbeast99x

Ajax you are the man. Thank you for everything you do!

Originally posted by [deleted]

thats a lot of comments when it comes to how gods should be changed and stuff, see a lot of questionable balance ideas on this sub lol. think i at least mentioned most of what your longer comment says in my own reply to it. long posts and replies really arent my thing, have the attention span of a goldfish.

this aint meant to sound to dickish but when i first saw sol's kit back when she was revealed i remember saying to myself and whoever i was in a skype call with "theres no way this god doesnt make casuals suck for at least 2 patches" and well the rest is history lol.

might even be a designer vs just player type thing, i know all of you play yourselves but theres still a different look at the game from both sides.

Originally posted by Drict

The team clearly need to assess your method of testing with NON - TEAM organized groups.

Most games of Smite the average player is partnering with 1-2 players at most, if not queuing solo. Tsukuyomi is an amazing solo queue pick, because you have so many abilities to mess with your opponents; being able to stun, disarm, move around, slow, etc. is sooo punishing if you are even if you aren't vaguely aware of your teammates.

I would suggest forcing people in your testing environment to be muted (including party chat) to each other, and completely random teams (pros, and casual mixed together) and randomly assign the new god with everyone else getting to pick a god of their choice sometimes and randomly assigning (like assault) other matches.

Mix it up

Originally posted by AkiyoSSJ

In the end this is just a clear view to the fact that Smite is a team based game. In my opinion, playing solo in casual matches where everyone does whatever they want(with many people not even cooperating) should not bring you any expectations. Those solo queues in casual should be defintely not the main metric in deciding the nerfs for a god.

Originally posted by epiphopotamus

Would it be worth looking at your testing conventions? If you have the same groups as your testers are you only getting the perspective of coordinated teams at a higher level of play, and that is not what the majority of the community has the privilege to experience.

PTS could be amplified in the live client, or reward people to encourage a larger sample set? Make a specific queue in the live client for it? Obviously I'm not qualified to present actionable ideas, but I feel like you've had to regularly defend God releases lately, so something must not be working.

Originally posted by [deleted]

do you guys do like tests and matches with comms vs no comms constant vgs as far as info and then less vgs going to more so simulate actual games? ive done my fair share of solo Qing and full premades and honestly playing with people you know vs playing with randoms its damn near like playing a different game lol.

Originally posted by Skinnney

Thank you for the insightful response to the internal workings of character creation for smite. I can only imagine the difficulties of trying to predict scale-up from internal testing to mass play. My misunderstanding is this, if the internal team plus pro players tested tsukuyomi, how did they not just absolutely steamroll through? From the games I played with people having far less time on the god at release compared to the multi-week testing (I’d imagine) of the internal team absolutely steamrolled our games. At launch, there was not a single game where the tsukuyomi in my games had less than 20 kills (Clash).

I don’t understand how these instances weren’t naturally replicated in internal testing, and if the statement about preventing over-tuned characters is true, why it wasn’t prevented.

Edit: grammar

Originally posted by filthy-fuckin-casual

I have a hard time believing OP didn't know that. The only site that lists ca-break-out is the dudes DeviantArt. So either they both came up with the same name or OP was quite literally on the guys DeviantArt.

Originally posted by TheGamerKitty1

Ah yes. Oh cool. Even when off Smite, it's still my fault lmao. Toxic players is apparently MY personal problem. Lmao. Cool. Good to know.