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05 Jan

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Except the Harriers flight performance dictates it would need to be at a BR where air-to-air missiles are mostly critical for kills, yet would itself be without them, putting it in a much worse spot where it would not be useful or relevant in many situations.


So please do not take my words out of context

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All tank shells are entirely down to balancing and developer decision. Lots of tanks do not have all of their "historical" shells in the same way lots of vehicles have shells, payloads, weaponry and ordinance they did not officially carry in service in reality, but were linked with, used in testing or related to the project.


SRAAM is directly related to GR.1, was proposed for it in the same way the VT-1 was for the FlakRak Rad and many other vehciles in game.

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BRs are nothing at all to do with me. They are decided based on the communities stats.


If a change happens, we will put it in the patch notes.


04 Jan

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Its not the same comparison.


One is an export variant. One is not.


Again, the aim of this topic, was a historical Soviet PFM. Thats whats coming. Trying to make a vehicle suit a BR in any way possible does not work, because thats not how things are done.


The vehicle will be available in a matter of days and the sort of changes you keep trying to ask for cannot be done in that time as its major holidays in Russia right now.


BRs can change and it will if it shows not to be 10.0 material.

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We don't plan to add what is basically a separate aircraft into the MiG-21PFM. The opening post of this topic and the aim of the topic was to make this a Historical Soviet PFM. Thats exactly whats coming.


An export PFM or MiG-21S would be separate aircraft.


Again, if 10.0 proves to not be viable, then its BR can always change if the stats show that.


We dont make a vehicle to suit a specific BR, as that can always change.

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Im not posting it to change the perception of those who have already made their mind up. Im posting it for the benefit of those who are unaware of the situation regarding Harrier and SRAAM who sometimes fall for the misconceptions that GR.1 has no relation to SRAAM at all. Which is untrue.


Im not attempting to alter the mindset of those who dont agree with it, but for those that dont have all the information or those that make incorrect claims.


Again. A GR.1 without any form of Air-to-air is not only fairly dull but also not great for balance. As without any kind of missile, the Harrier would struggle.


This addition is not the first to use this form of weaponry choice. As I said, there are countless examples in almost all nations of aircraft or tanks that have weaponry, ordinance or shells that they simply tested, were proposed with or perhaps were linked too, but never quite made...

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SMT and Bis were almost a year apart. 11 months between them. Its not just about the number of patches because a patches size can vary.

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SRAAM was also planned for GR.1, but was ultimately not followed through due to cost. In game there is no such limitation. We have several vehicles in game with similar situations. In those cases, the developers always try to use the most interesting loadouts that were possible so the aircraft is generally more interesting. Its the same case with tanks and shells. Some tanks have shells they didn't use in real life, but could.




This has nothing to do with lack of research.


The developers are fully aware of what the Harrier was and thats exactly why it was introduced how it was. Without SRAAM Harrier GR.1 is a pretty boring plane in terms of air-to-air combat and a lacklustre attacker compared to the Jaguar, Phantom and Buccaneer. Its main bonus in reality, VTOL is not as critical in game as airbases are already fairly forward and the issue of them bei...

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03 Jan

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MiG-21Bis is already at 10.7 and along with the Phantom are currently the top tier jets of the game. More aircraft are coming in upcoming updates.



If you checked the patch notes, the same patch where the Harrier went to 10.0, the A-7D also went up to 9.7.

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Two things:

1) Significantly less people flew the F-89D compared to Harrier. It was generally around 200 people playing the F-89D.

2) It was over 5 weeks since Harrier was released for us to get the data we needed to show 10.0 was necessary.

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It still can and does not need to rely solely on teammates.

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None of these options are needed.


The Harrier works exactly as it did before. Nothing was changed in that regard. SRAAMs also function as they should.


The aircraft simply got a BR increase as it was performing too well at 9.7 and is perfectly capable of fighting at 10.0 - 10.7

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Nothing was changed regarding this and it remains exactly the same both in lock and targeting.


Your posts were removed since they broke forum rules. Please re-read the forum rules before continuing to break them.

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Then thats a fundamental flaw of how not to use SRAAMs. They are a dogfighting weapon that requires you to get close to your target to use. They are not a Medium-Long range engagement weapon like Phantoms and MiG-21s have which should be the first to engauge.


Some people were too used to simply charging in against slower and weaker aircraft that they now try to do the same against the Harriers contemporaries. Like the Hunter, its a supporting aircraft. When played to its strengths (like any aircraft), its highly capable. But there will always be those who use it however they wish, die and then blame it on the BR.

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SRAAMs have not been changed at all in the past few days. Please do not spread false information.

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The Harrier is more than capable of facing 10.7 aircraft, even more so than the Hunter F.6 has past weeks have shown.


It is better positioned at 10.0 for now, but we will continue to monitor how it does.



This already exists in quantitive matchmaking but only works at a full +1.0 BR. Its not possible to make it work specifically at 10.0 for only 0.7 BR.



Something has been done. Harrier GR.1 like all other strongly performing aircraft has had its BR raised. The Harrier was not the first to have this done nor an exception to the rule and we are not going to start revolving the game around the Harriers comfort. It is still more than capable at 10.0 and far better balanced. Other 10.0 aircraft face 10.7s and so must the Harrier as do 9.7s on occasion.

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Merged topics

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As I said in the last time you posted this, we already have a topic open on the EBR to discuss it. Please do so there. Do not keep opening new topics. This is your last warning:


02 Jan

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We already have topics open on the EBR for discussion. Please use them:

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This is fake and not offical at all. Likely fan made or photoshop.