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Originally posted by NelsonMinar

Can someone explain in detail what's happening with the animation of a factory producing assembly machine 3 "in quality"? The label says

This is a simple build to create Assembling machine 3 in quality. If there's more than 100 of any quality, it recycles them hoping to get the next tier. The build only receives the basic ingredients from "the normal factory", and all of the quality complications remain here.

I get the goal but I don't understand in detail what the various lines of machines are doing.

Originally posted by black_sky

God I'm so excited to put another 200 hours into a standard playthrough.

Originally posted by i-make-robots

u/kovarex how do you mine oil before researching oil?

Originally posted by FlurgBungler

Are the changes to research and the trigger technologies going to be exclusive to Space Age, or will they change the base game too?

Originally posted by megalogwiff

How can the endgame research be infinite, if productivity is capped at 300%?

Also, designing perfect ratios for late game just became practically impossible.

Originally posted by Asddsa76

I don't like gating refineries and chemplant research behind setting up an oil pumpjack.

Currently, I automate tens of pumpjacks, refineries, and chemplants, along with necessary railway, then set up a refinery outpost somewhere with oil + coal + water in one go.

The new system would require going there once to set up pumpjacks to unlock the research, going back to your main base to automate refineries/chemplants, and then finally going back to set up the rest of the outpost.

Originally posted by ConspicuousBassoon

I feel like a lot of people who are saying they don't like this are forgetting that it's completely optional. Not only do you not have to engage with quality, it sounds like you can just avoid researching it altogether (unless quality modules are required in some unrevealed space age crafts). There are some valid criticisms to be made (the quality names especially), but I think converting this system into modules was the correct way to handle it

Originally posted by Wiwiweb

Haven't seen anyone share my question/concern here yet.

If quality doesn't affect science production, then this is just about malls. You'll have your normal prod/speed setup for science, but you'll need to create a whole new thing for malls. You can't just leech ingredients from science anymore.

Creating malls is already an unpopular part of Factorio, so I wonder how this will pan out. I'm waiting to try it out before forming a stronger opinion.

Originally posted by Effete-Snob

Three questions for the developers:

• Does the recycling machine have a fluid output, or will recycling something like batteries simply fail to recover the sulfuric acid?
• How does the quality system interact with train scheduling? If I have a locomotive set to depart when the inventory is full, but a high-quality gear somehow sneaks onto the wagon, will that train be stuck waiting at the station until enough high-quality gears arrive to fill that one stack?
• Will the mod API provide a way for recipes to weight quality output besides influence of modules? Say, a more expensive version of the green circuit recipe that provides a higher chance to output a better quality green circuit?

Originally posted by subjectivelyimproved

Two questions regarding mixed quality production and separate stacks.

Does an assembler accept mixed quality items as input for its recipe - Like, 2 perfect/legendary copper cable and 1 normal/basic iron plate and one normal/basic copper cable to make a green circuit?

If yes, how is the product quality calculated?

Originally posted by ultra1994

do higher quality train fuel increase top speed and acceleration?

Originally posted by Vitau

One question, can train locomotives have higher quality too? I would love a acceleration bonus on them too

Originally posted by PlusVera

Hmm. Interested feature. I'm mixed on it.

Pro: From the sounds of things, you do not get "Quality" Items until you use the Quality Module. So your miners won't be spitting out "Quality" Ore until you put the modules into them. This means that you can beat the game and ignore this system if you don't like it, like the circuit network.

Con: Once you start using Quality Modules, it might be VERY VERY PAINFUL. Not only will they start to take up space in Trains or other inventory locations, they will also end up in places you might not expect, due to the nature of Factorio factories being... intertwined after a while.

Pro: Higher quality items might help alleviate beacon spamming as a strategy in the early late-game.

Con: It might make the end-late-game way, WAY worse as q5 beacons with q5 modules are now so much more effective.

Pro: This does mean your starter base will likely not produce these items, and instead they will be the focus of mega b...

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Originally posted by MjccWarlander

To be honest it sounds like it would be quite tedious feature, knowing me (and I'm probably not alone on this) I would just recycle everything that isn't the best quality so entire factory only uses the top quality components and products.

Originally posted by AntaroNx

Does the endgame become gambling on high rarity parts that otherwise get recycled into another chance of becoming high quality because rng?

I don't like it, and I play gacha games. Hopefully this can be turned off. The module is fine, no need to change it for the sake of change.

Originally posted by BartZeroSix

Well I hope it's like oil in factorio, not something too hard to do.

Originally posted by drewwil000

Ah, yes, why research cliff explosives when nuke do trick.

Originally posted by AgileInternet167

Please tell me you can still have requester chests on the first planet.