I’m really hoping to see a couple things in the vault sale. One is that flying broomstick emote. The others are mostly armour sets prior to reforge update. I restarted from the beginning to experience reforged in full but my new file only has the emotes and armour that showed up in the vault after reforged
Definitely will be some pre-reforged items!
Will the Vault closing sale still have a paywall for items? IE Free vs Elite or is everything available to everyone?
There are some that require Elite - but most items won’t, including some armour sets!
i think it's because of the word "Cache" which many have associated with loot boxes. i thought the same as well until i read a few comments.
Ok that’s really good feedback! Might be worth reevaluating the name. Thanks!
Will you still get bonus currency for buying the elite hunt pass as well?
Yeah lookin like there’ll be some in both free and elite. Exactly how much TBD
Maybe do something like the old free patrol chests? Daily challenges build up for a week, then you lose the 8th one? Doing them all should be busy, but not impossible. It would also encourage students (and the not-so-young) to not stay up late every single schoolnight.
Yeah I really like this idea - we’re taking it in and talking internally about it. May not end up in the first version, but we’ll be fine tuning with each season!
Will there also be Dyes and Hair Tints from (all) past Hunt Passes in the megasale?
Not from all, but some! Anything you’re hoping to see?
that was the thing that made me spend my first dollars on Dauntless. I liked that idea alot
Yeah, so far it’s been really well received!
Excellent, that eases some of my concerns. It seems less like the Vault is going away, and more like the Vault is being greatly expanded in functionality and getting a new coat of paint, which I like.
Something else I was curious about; with the Slayer Club granting the built in escalation boost, can we expect to see some other reward or functionality for Charged Aether for players who have maxed out each escalation?
Nothing planned to that end just now, unfortunately. But maybe! You’ll be nice and ready for Heroic Escalation, though :)
With the removal of the Vault, I worry that previous cosmetics (from past hunt passes and those that have been removed from the store) will all be shoved into Event Passes, which I have a bit of an issue with, as they tend to be far more expensive than they have any right to be, sometimes equaling 2-3x the cost of the hunt pass the cosmetics came from with less than half of the rewards and no form of compensation if you have obtained some, but not all, of the rewards.
Is there any plan to adjust your approach to how Event Passes are handled?
In the new Reward Cache, there's a whole tab just for previous season cosmetics.
Event Passes are bonus opportunities to purchase a short elite track with special rewards. Definitely watching the prices and seeing similar feedback in other places. But no, all past content won't only be available in Event Passes. In fact, you might expect to see things more like the Ragnar's Event Pass, with a couple new variant pieces.
This sounds interesting! I think it will all depend on what sort of things we have to do for the daily and weekly challenges. If they're similar to the recent dye rumours it could be quite fun, although the random behemoth spawns have the potential to make them quite frustrating if done wrong! For example I spent 45 minutes the other day trying to find Ragetail gnashers for the grievance dye rumour and only found 1 in that whole time. I wasn't too bothered because I have as long as I need to complete the rumours, but if it was a time limited daily challenge that would be very frustrating!
I also have a couple of questions: When items rotate out of the cache is there a chance they may appear again in the future? And will the corsair armour set be in the vault sale? I really want that set!
Yes to your first question.
And Yes to your second!
With completing the hunt pass being a faster affair since the introduction of hunting grounds, the discount bundle on the elite pass and level skips is less attractive.
Would you consider a discounted bundle to get the elite hunt pass AND a pass-long hunter's club for those of us that definitely want both for as long as the pass lasts?
Maybe something like "Buy a month of hunter's club with your elite pass and have it last until the end of the pass"?
You aren't the first to suggest and yeah, for sure. That's a great idea.
I have to agree with this. I kind of liked the pre-bounty weekly challenges, and I like the idea of having "things to do" in the game.
But I have a family, I have a job, I have housework, I have responsibilities.
If the daily challenges are at the level of a bronze bounty, then I can't do them every day. Not your fault PHXL, but I would resent you for it. Just saying.
The goal for the dailies is so that there's something fun and rewarding to do every time you log in. It's really not to try and get everyone playing daily. Truthfully, if you come back to Dauntless once a week and are having a great time -- I'm happy! :)
You won't have to complete EVERY daily challenge to get all the new stuff in the cache.
Backlogging challenges is super interesting - I'd love to explore that. Would require some rebalancing etc but totally on the table!
This has to be one of the spiciest cosmetical updates I've seen and I never saw this coming. Very excited.
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Okay so this new system just sounds like a loot box... so my only question is. Will you get duplicate items from the cache. And if so, what happens when you do? Cause if it doesn't give duplicates ever than it is fine... but if it does than this system is actually a terrible alternative.
I get it people do not like the vault, but don't even say a lootbox is better.
Sounds like there's some miscommunication.
The Cache isn't something you open to find a surprise item. It's a whole store with items you choose to get in whatever order you want. And we'll be adding to it over the course of the season.
Read moreI don't like currencies being seasonally dependent and earned at a fixed rate, especially both combined. Add onto that the elite pass being devalued so i'll need to spend my limited, time gated seasonal currency to get what I previously had bought access to by just owning the elite pass and my initial reaction is obviously negative.
Personally, I would rather have too much currency and not have anything I want to buy right now ( which, as someone who has been playing just under a year is never the case with the vault, there's always something new for me and I never have enough vault coins to get everything) compared to having something in the reward cache I would want to buy but no matter how much I play or grind, i'll never be able to.
I'm keeping in mind that having previous cosmetic content earnable in the first place was one of the reasons I was comfortable spending money so fast (and so much o.e) on dauntless and is something other games rarely do, a...
Yeah, all the rewards are available to all players as long as they've got enough juice from the daily and weekly challenges.
TBD on hunt passes paying for themselves. We're always evaluating that one.
So long as I can earn the other armor and weapon skins from the cache for free and in a reasonable time frame this sounds good!
Awesome! Yeah, we're still talking exact balance over here and I expect we'll continue to balance it over time. So let us know how the first round feels.
Overall, the goal is that everything that's new in the Reward Cache is earnable without joining the Hunting Club.
I was getting tired of the vault so I look forward to seeing how this new system plays out!
It was a great first step and helped us figure out the best path forward - but yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing you all get into it!
Let me just say, this is an amazing step in the right direction; can't wait to see how this turns out! This one thing alone might be enough to keep me engaged through a whole season, best of wishes that you guys can make things polished by the time it's out ^^
That's great - but here's the thing: this is far from the only thing happening this season!
Is the Vault Sale a sale as in reduced prices, or just a sale with more options?
Just more options
Are there any items from the Vault that won't be available going forward?
No, there's nothing that's Vault Only or Seasonal Store Only. Everything is fair game to return to again. Especially if there's requests for it!
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