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When I said there was misunderstanding, I meant it was because of the poor design, not that it was the communities fault.

I try really hard not to blame things on the design or Devs, they're trying their best, and this is just a case where a feature wasn't really done in the best way.

When players unanimously don't interpret something in the way it was intended, the feature is flawed and not communicating what it's supposed to. The fix for that is changing the feature, or removing it. We're leaning towards changing it now - and making it more obvious what it actually means.

We've extended season 2 into season 3 and that period will have double fame points. We announced that yesterday when it was fully confirmed with the Devs.

One problem is that we actually don't have a locked in release date for the next season when we launch the current one. We have an estimated one in mind, that we work towards - but it always adjusts as we get closer to the time. Making games is a creative task and you can only predict how long things will take to a certain extent. We don't want our team to crunch to hit deadlines, or work outside of normal hours and burnout. So we hold off announcing the official date until we have full confidence that it is possible to hit it.

That's the issue with the timer - we're literally not counting down to the next season, we don't have that date, really. We're counting down to a date that is slightly before the next season.

We're now thinking we won't remove the timer but we'll try to find a way to display it... In a way that attempts to explain what it means (that the season will start winding down at that date, and the next season will start soonish afterwards)

I don't think we are able to add a countdown to the next season - we don't know that date exactly when the current season launches. We can only countdown to a date that is slightly before the next season - then we can do double fame points until the real date.

I said "remove it" as we were discussing through options with the Devs and that was one of the ideas we were chatting through, the Devs are now in favour of just making it way more clear that it's counting down to the "winding down" part of the season, rather than counting down to the "end of the season" which suggests "the start of the next season"

You literally just described what a leak is lol. Information that we haven't announced yet, being shared before we are ready to share it.

Having an announcement at the game awards is a huge deal for marketing the game.

Holding info back to make a bigger moment for marketing is completely normal for any game.

I'm not surprised you thought S3 was going to go the same way really, and sorry that it hasn't been clear at all - it sucks but I want to solve this going forward so we'll not have any issues like this again, as it really is a communication thing that can be solved by a few small changes (and something I can help with a lot in terms of getting word out / helping with visibility here)!

Ah I see!

Just re-reading now that work has finished for me - what Oliver articulated is correct that the timer hasn't historically indicated the start of the next season, but has indicated the start of "Thing that will happen between seasons before we show the next date", but with only a two seasons being done before, we haven't really have a 'standard' yet on what we do between seasons. The knock-on of that/poor communication has got us here. We certainly don't mean it as like 'oh no you misunderstood us and that's on you guys', more 'oh we did not communicate this properly'.

I think this is something I'll look to do! I am able to sticky posts here, and will likely run it that way. Thanks for the feedback as well, and yeah I do think improved communication will go a long way!

I can also double confirm this and I shouldn't be typing on a stream but here I am!

Yeah you should be able to just resume grinding as normal!

i lovehate this so much.

Hey!

Yeah, in that thread I did articulate this but I'll do so here again - it's a communication issue from our side that we will improve, I don't think we tried to say it was the community's fault at any point? I certainly didn't but let me know if there's something that makes it sound that way. And I also am not sure what gaslighting you mean in this instance but let me know (feel free to DM if you want?)

We're making sure we tighten up wording and how we handle the countdown timer / how season updates are articulated to you so that this is much better.

It's good that we got feedback on what to do/not do with the timer as that incidentally means things have changed since our earlier posts - but we're still in discussion! Likely something we'll fix with wording rather than removal, but we'll update the Trello ticket and I'll post here when we have some further communications on it.

Hey! Thank you for your support Jayde first of all, I appreciate it.

Admittedly, it is hard to wade through a lot of negativity - but something that we expect our side is the accountability from our community and it's important for us not to take things personally even if they are sometimes worded that way. Do I ever think that should devolve into "Get fired" comments or general awfulness? Never! Boo. It's not productive discussion. But is it good to hold us accountable? Sure absolutely. Just ya know - with balance.

There's a good side to this too. The vocal nature of the sub means that it's easy for us to track progress - and sentiment of course. It helps us articulate urgency and prevalence of some issues, too.

I promise I'm doing what I can to work on this and of course, would love to be able to fix everything overnight and show great progress - but in the absence of that, hopefully more proactive communication from me will help.

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Yeah!

So since then we've added to the Trello board that we want to ensure we're more player-centric with end-of-season comms, and in general, make that timer far clearer. Most people did assume that end-of-timer means the new season would start - and that's completely fair enough, because I guess, what else would it mean unless we clearly articulate that meaning in-game and on our channels.

Absolutely understand that and we'll keep in mind from now!!