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12 Oct

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Originally posted by bns18js

Ok appreciate the response. I'm glad you guys are at least monitoring it. I have always trusted numerical balancing by you guys 100%. You guys have done such an amazing job making champs reasonably good in both solo queue and competitive.

I was just afraid of the game play frustration part that might be possibly overlooked. We league players like league because it's league. No need to go the dota route :)

I'm always glad to hear concerns! It's not like we're 100% giga confident every change is going to do exactly what we want every time.

If Teemo is more frustrating or banned or too powerful then we'll look to walk stuff back or nerf something else.

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Originally posted by bns18js

Teemo should be quite powerful against autoattackers as the only true blind in the game and when the spell is limp and doesn't counter them too well then it's hardly filling its niche.

Something I always liked about league is that hard counters don't really exist. There are favorable and unfavorable match ups for laning and overall comp. But it feels like most of the game gameplay is the most important thing and you always have a chance.

This is in clear contrast to dota2, which does have hard counters where some champs are completely helpless against others. It makes pro game drafting interesting, since teams can draft around it as an organized unit. But it makes normal gameplay much worse, since people don't really draft accordingly and if you get counter picked you'll be suffering ALOT.

Is this really the direction we want to push league into? Imo its the wrong take. It's just gameplay very frustrating for ever...

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I really don't think this pushes teemo toward being a real hard counter. I dont expect him to force dodges if there's a trynd on the other team.

If he does end up being such a counter that he's really feeling like a true hard counter and it's worthless to play against him as certain chars we'll likely nerf him.

I strongly suspect Teemo is not going to be in this space.

For interesting reference the hardest counter in League is Sylas into Malphite which is a ~9% delta in Sylas' favor. Nothing else comes too close to that

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Originally posted by Thothowaffle

Thank you for the comment. I personally feel that she is struggling right now because glitches she has with her passive limits her abilities to make plays and builds. Any item with a visual inducator on it like GA or Banshees veil will show through her diguise. Like wise her passive also breaks if she copies Gnar, Kayle since she doesn't copy their auto ranges.

Yeah there's some unfortunate bugs I've been trying to squish on her. I killed that bug where if she had Alternator and took damage in W her clone instadied at least lol

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Originally posted by FlyingLotus_Beats

This man really just suggested QSS for a ~4 second ability.. Lord have mercy.

When I'm Tryndamere and Teemo dies in 3 autoattacks QSS can be pretty good for me

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Originally posted by OneTwoTrickFour

If you want to fulfill the fantasy of the "swift" scout you should maybe instead change the w to be more than a hamster wheel powering a wheelchair

But jokes off that's a somewhat reasonable response, but why do you have to power through three big changes at the same time x) A slight buff to Q is okay because it can be slightly underwhelming but that's just too much maaan

Generally we like to bundle changes that are all in the same space to make sure we're actually hitting the goal.

Ending up buffing teemo 3 times in a row with what looks like small meme buffs to Q imo is a worse experience and is worse for our understanding of how changing his Q into this new shape affects the char

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Originally posted by FrostWareYT

Honestly, I think it’d be neat if you looked into shifting Teemo to the jungle role more.

I believe he's actually decent in the jungle, not good but playable

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Originally posted by OneTwoTrickFour

The fact that you just read my comment and are not concerned is concerning to me

Frankly there are a lot of tenacity choices in the system and QSS. Those are more valuable against teemo now. Also pretty much every character has pretty substantial dps from non-aa abilities.

Teemo should be quite powerful against autoattackers as the only true blind in the game and when the spell is limp and doesn't counter them too well then it's hardly filling its niche.

This is all to say it still might be too powerful and we'll nerf or adjust as needed, but we shouldn't not make changes that help characters fulfill their fantasies and their niches.

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Originally posted by moody_P

hey can i ask how stride/gore cooldowns work with item haste? since they scale off of your champion's haste too, would the total haste just get added together for these two items?

I think it double dips

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Originally posted by Exmerus

You have just been gigatrolled, sir. πŸ˜‚

This question gets asked enough in a serious way that I want to answer it straightfaced for whoever might be curious

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Originally posted by OneTwoTrickFour

Alan234 Challenger Teemo EUW OTP here - If this goes through Teemo is absurdly broken. I'm down to discuss more here, also writing/complaining about it on Twitter a lot.

Summary: A very normal Teemo build is: Sorcs+Liandries+Cosmic Drive+Zhonya, thats 25+(10 mythic passive)+25+10=70 Ability Haste => so around 41% CDR

7 sec blind Q*(1-41%)=4.13sec Q

Enjoy being blinded for 3 seconds every 4.13 seconds without transcendence, cdr boots, other items or AH in runes!!

Throw in an Anathemas for negative tenacity if you want to get spicy

Edit: see somewhere down the comment chain for more info

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Originally posted by homer12346

jungle teemo

Jeemo

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Originally posted by Thothowaffle

How is she doing compared to Neeko? I know it is rude to ask for champions buffs directly but Neeko's playrate is lower then most midlaners with op.gg listing her as a lower playrate then Asol or Corki

I personally think Neeko wants a bit more work than just a simple buff.

Fwiw I think Neeko tends to be a bit better on average

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Originally posted by SauloJr

Sion buffs are good tbh, considering you started Doran's Shield with no HP shard, you have 625 HP; 8% of 625 is 50, while 11% is 68.75.

18,75 hp more shield on W at level 1, almost double as the previous buff. I accept it.

The HP shard buffs are huge. At level 18 you'll have 373.8 gold worth of HP compared to the 120 gold worth of armor or 144 gold worth of MR (considering the numbers on the wiki)

I pitched sion buff! Wanted to buff specifically tank builds as tank representation in top is a little light nowadays. I estimated this to be between 15% and 25% buff to his shield for most of mid-game which is sizable.

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Originally posted by arborcide

What's up with the Guardian nerf? Was it really that strong?

(I wonder if this change actually makes Omnistone Bard the right choice.)

Guardian has been the highest winrate primary rune in the game for as long as I can remember, it's actually better than aery on almost every enchanter

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Originally posted by crazycalvin22

Finally an Akshan nerf. Rest in peace angel <3

turns out hes a bit op

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Originally posted by CarrotvsBrocclee

WHAT THE f**k ARE THOSE LUX BUFFS HOLY SHIT THAT IS HUGE

its her time

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Originally posted by our_last_moment

oh thank god crit viego buffs, maybe people will build shieldbow/kraken now over divine surrender

prayge

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Originally posted by WolfAkela

No mention of those monstrous Teemo buffs yet? Longer blind, shorter CD, and more importantly almost double the Q middle speed?

Oh he be blindin now

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Originally posted by MonstrousYi

Any idea when her skin will drop?

So tbh I have no idea when any skin is released. That whole pipeline is in such a different area that I'll only see that there's a new skin for a champ when I'm looking through the patchnotes before ship.

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Originally posted by Right_Commission9820

If you dont mind could you give us any insight on the reason for lux being buffed? Seems like these are quite big buffs seemingly out of the blue.

She was honestly pretty underpar in p much every role in almost every elo