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09 Jul

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    /u/Reav3 on Reddit - Thread - Direct

Originally posted by PinkShortShorts

Why is there no variety in terms of the champions selected? Why did no mages or enchanters or tanks join the fight against Viego? It feels extremely limiting that the only ones that can be Sentinels are characters that fulfill a hypercarry ad fantasy. I’m not sure how much of a “ragtag” group it is if it only appeals to a specific subset of players.

Choices were also made based on who made sense to use Relic Weapons. Relic weapons are physical based, not magical based. We also took into consideration which champions it would make sense for the Sentinels to have Relic weapons for them to use

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Originally posted by Eragon_the_Huntsman

I appreciate the response and I agree with you on most parts. However if you don't mind a little bit of hopefully constructive criticism, I feel like it could have been better if either Irellia, Diana or Riven got the legendary instead of Graves, or if Vayne had more character growth in hers.

Right now both of them have the kind of "eh I don't really care that the world's ending I'm just here for the cool guns" vibe with their voicelines, which I feel takes away from the impact of the event since they're the front and center. Using your analogy, In Guardians of the Galaxy, Starlord has Gamora as the serious side to balance his more... carefree attitude, and I think a lot of the complaints come from people who expected more of an Avengers approach to this cataclysmic event than the Guardians who are a bit more silly.

TLDR: I dont mind that graves got a skin, I think it fits pretty well actually. I just feel like Vayne should be taking this a little more seriously, s...

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I love reading constructive criticism. Thanks for the thoughts! It's something I'll keep in mind for future events

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Originally posted by Tungvaumtp

This is unrelated but since you are currently active may I ask something: is there any reason why Viego's power is so absurd? Why can he revive a god? Why can the Black Mist corrupt petricite when it can hold the literal source codes of all magic?

Their is yes, and unfortunately this was meant to be a beat that came out right before the event back when Vex was planned to ship right before the event. It's explained in the visual novel but since it was meant to originally be a story beat that happened before the event I'll just explain it here. Prior to this moment Viego was strong but not strong enough to cause a global ruination. He meets Vex who travels to the shadow Isles from Bandle city. Vex fancies Viego so uses her spirit world Yordle magic to greatly amplify Viegos powers. This is what leads to Viego causing a global ruination and becoming crazy powerful. He couldn't do it without Vex's help

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Originally posted by Shadowfishy

I greatly appreciate the post from a human perspective and I thank you for taking the time to explain your process. Your words provide some insight towards the choices this event, but I also feel like some of the things said feel really off.

Skin choices aside, as we know this will always be a factor whether good or bad, the choices themselves still don't really fit what you've mentioned, for myself and a lot of others.

Where Guardians of the Galaxy, Suicide Squad and X-Men work is that there's either a common thread or mood attempting to be portrayed. Whether that's collective comedy of GotG (which Odyssey does very well), and some misadventures being funny, or with SS that all share bad guy statuses that don't play to anyone's rules other than their own. Or even X-Men where they are much more all over the place, but never feel out of place and all come together with very few actually being bad guys.

With the choices made, and yes even the narrative choices...

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Have u played through the in client visual novel at all yet? It's like a 15-20 hour long story that will fill in a lot of the gaps you are mentioning here. It will also show a lot of the champs interacting with each other as the story progresses. I think before the event started you could only really see that in the Legendary skins VO, you are correct.

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Originally posted by Law-8374

I mean unfortunately this IS just PR bullshit, as much as you convey all of this its just blatantly all about money (obviously its what they have to do), but ill give you credit i think the inclusion of olaf, irelia and graves was very good and smart cause it hit a sweetspot of champs that dont get a crazy amount of love (except irelia) but feel just right in the event (but NOT graves repping pilt/zaun, you guys robbed a lot of ppl that love that region with that) in terms of where you guys missed the mark its just sad, “we thought this would progress vayne the best” what??? you must be joking, vayne has LITERALLY been in a absolute shit ton of events, you know that right??? Her and riven were LITERALLY IN SPIRIT BLOSSOM, im not gonna elaborate too much more cause its not worth, at the end of the day you guys just rely on your money grabbers such as vayne and riven. The last thing is i feel you maybe, justtt maybe Reav3 you should actually chat with ppl that know the lore, let me a...

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I was actually the producer of the Yorick VGU. I worked directly on that project and love him. I also mained him for like 6 months after the VGU and still play him in top lane sometimes depending on the match up. My comment about Vayne wasnt about how many events she has been in, it was specifically about how her lore and story progression we felt fit very well with the Sentinels

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    /u/Reav3 on Reddit - Thread - Direct

Originally posted by SomeoneNewToReddit

Hi,

I personally love what you guys have done with the event and just wanted to start of by giving you guys some positive feedback, the event looks amazing and I love the 1 year arc story that you guys have gone for this year.

The only "negative" (which could be proven wrong) feedback I have is that I would have loved to see Yorick either join the Sentinels or break free from the power of mist like Unbound Thresh. I want to make it clear that I don't know a lot about the lore/Yorick's connect to the Mist. All I know is that his persona/lore is based around the Mist and Viego so I really do hope he will make an appearance and received a good quality skin throughout this event.

I am someone who plays really unpopular champions (Ivern, Yorick, Pre-rework Mundo, Pre-and Post-Rework Fiddle, Maokai etc) which is why I think this "means more to me" than any other event/skinline that we have seen in recent times. Yorick would be an amazing fit for this story arc. Si...

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It's a long event with more chapters unlocking every weak. More characters then just the ones getting skins or even characters that are playable champions (as already seen with the Buhru Sentinel) will show up in the story and visual novel

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Originally posted by GeronimoJak

Vayne makes the most sense and is a good fit, Olaf is one as well, but characters like Pyke are kind of just ??? and he's legit one of my favorites in the game universe.

Not seeing Yorick, or how champions become ruined is another thing. In voice line interactions it speaks that people like Miss Fortune, Karma, and Draven sold themselves and intentionally sided with Viego which doesn't fit the cinematic of them being taken over, or their characters personality.

Maybe the pandemic did a lot more to change how things worked then anticipated but there's a lot of missing pieces that need to be filled or they just seem kind of mishandled or nonsensical from the current stand point.

All those answers are explained in the visual novel story in client. The reason I'm not answering any of those questions here is that I dont want to ruin the story. As for Yorick, well more characters then just the ones getting skins will show up in the visual novel

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Originally posted by CheddarCroissant

The event will have more cinematics right? I feel like the one we received has a continuation, graves pyke miss fortune etc

The continuation of the story is the the visual novel which is live in the client right now

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Originally posted by Raikeron

What is this Visual Novel you keep mentioning? Is it already available?
I feel like I'm missing a lot of lore about this event; people keep mentioning Gwen's interactions with the Sentinels but I haven't seen that yet...

Its in the client right now. Load the game up and press "Begin Patrol"

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Originally posted by -Falrein

Okay, this'll probably be buried under a lot of other comments but I ought to write it or I won't forgive myself.

First of all, I do appreciate the honest answer. I am personally not a fan of the cast choice, but I appreciate that you'd explain the reasoning behind it.

I am glad to read that you like the IP/World of Runeterra. I'm a huge fan of it as well, and it at least makes me feel better to know that you do to since you're overseeing the whole thing.

Now, if I may voice my honest opinion (and I ask that you believe I have no ill intention), I think that the idea of making a worldwide threat event may not have been the best idea to begin with. Of course, I understand the appeal and all, it's great to have heroes and characters from all around the world having to work together against a common threat.What I personally dislike is that in that sort of instance, there are many, many champions that could or would take action, and we likely never will see what...

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The current event takes place from the Sentinels PoV so we will see what they see. We can always expand on what happened with other champions at different locations like we did with the recent Hecarim short story. While I cant confirm anything we have not announced I can say I agree that it would be exciting to see what happened to different champs around Runeterra during this moment. I don't think it would ever be possible for us to tell what happened to the entire cast of 150+ champions during a massive event like this, nor do I think having a cast that size should cause us to never do world ending threat events. I think u can tell a really compelling story with a smaller cast during a world ending event that is still worth telling, even if the answer to what every other champion is doing can't always be answered

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Originally posted by KingKensei

Alright if money isn't the reason, why include champs like Darius, Samira and Poppy in a cinematic if they're not even gonna be in the event at all? Could have Shown Draven and shyvana getting ruined cause you know their ruined skins.

Seems like shitty bait and switch tactics to me generate false hype and hope for their playerbase

I'd much rather Poppy not have been in the cinematic so I could trust Riot was just gonna ignore her existence again than get my hopes up for them to be ripped away for dollar store Bayonetta

The SS thing happened like 3-4 moths before the current SoL event. This is also why Poppy and Vayne are no longer together. They don't just hang out for 3-4 months after that moment. The SS was about Viego coming after Senna and when he starts to pull the soul out it triggers mini-ruinations across Runeterra. This is separate from the SoL fighting back against Viego. Connecting everything super close like that (the exact champions that randomly get involved in the mini-ruinations just happen to ALL run into the SoL and join them) makes the world feel very small. I think having some connected champions in the various stories we are telling about the Ruination is cool and makes sense, but having everything that connected starts to feel unrealistic in a world the size of Runeterra. SoL is one story directly revolving around Senna/Lucian and their fight against Viego and it involves the Champions and characters they run into during their journey. Also if we put the exact same champions...

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Originally posted by moumerino

Wow thank you for taking the time writing this! Honestly I picked up on Guardians of the Galaxy vibes right away, and I love it, I just wish we got at least one truly good champion of light for the event. If we're talking Mass Effect, someone like Liara, Tali, and Garrus.

I hope it will be explained how Pyke and Rengar fit into this whole thing.

Irelia is truly good. Senna, Lucian and Gwen are pretty close to truly good as well, Senna for sure. And yes it will be explained how and why they join in the visual novel

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Originally posted by BADxW0LF1

Can I ask why Vayne was chosen yet again to be included in a big league event since she was also in the Spirit Blossom event? Out if all the Champs you have in this game, she just gets two in a row and even your only two big in client events. It just seems unfair (and I know you guys don't really care about fairness for champ skins, just who fits the theme best) to give your ONLY two big in client lore events to the same champ.

I explained in the response. Vayne was the number one choice for Champions that would make the most sense to join the Sentinels and to advance her lore

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Originally posted by Spideraxe30

I can tell from the tone of this post and your other responses you’re being sincere and I honestly appreciate how open you are about strategy and your thinking behind decision making. I want to ask if you think the scope of the event can really do this story justice since this seems like the apocalypse and everyone reacts to the apocalypse so it might be a little jarring not knowing what X champ is doing during this

I think for the event story yes. The in-client experience is long and is from the Sentinels POV, not the entire world. I think for the Sentinels and champions in the main story, and for many of the main characters we will do them justice. Obv different champions all over the world are having their own experiences that we don't see from the Sentinels POV and we can always touch on those in the future (like how we recently released a story about what Hecarim is doing during all this since the Sentinels never run into him directly.) Like I don't think you needed to know what was happening all over the galaxy for ME2 to be a good story, for example.

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Originally posted by Masalar

I do appreciate you responding, but I want to try and express why it can still feel bad as player when you choose certain champs for events like this even if you have a good and valid “explanation” for it. And that’s the difference between and explanation and a justification. If unpopular champ A makes perfect sense for a story, but super popular champ B could also sort of probably be used, it feels like the better story would be told with A, and the lore would explain it. But since B makes more money you go with B (which is understandable even if not always enjoyable). But since the story isn’t a perfect when told with B, you’re not giving us an explanation for why the story is using them, you’re justifying why you’re using them instead of A. And the story will pretty much always feel worse when told that way.

When you guys tried to tell us why Viego had the appearance he does we already had a searchable history of male champ design. He was going to be a shirtless pretty ...

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Right but I think your A and B example is very subjective. I personally was very excited to see a story with these Champions and I think others will be as well. I think different players as well as different writers here at riot will have different opinions on who they think will make a more exciting story. The main writer of the event for example, was the MOST excited about Graves being in the story then any other Champion and felt he would add a lot to the story. Other writers and players will have different opinions. I think it's impossible to just say "These specific champions would 100% make a better story then these other specific champions" It's all very subjective

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Originally posted by hellhound39

Thanks for the response, we appreciate it. My only question is will there be any links to piltover or Zaun, it seems a little odd that they’re left out of this as far as representation for Ruined or Sentinels.

I don't want to spoil the story ahead of time especially for a chapter that comes out 2 weeks from now, but while u acquire Graves in P/Z he is not the sentinel(s) you meet with in P/Z. I'll just leave it at that for now

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    /u/Reav3 on Reddit - Thread - Direct

Hey all, Reav3 here, Creative Lead of this Event. Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier but I just now got on reddit this morning and checked out this thread. I'm probably insane for even responding in this thread since I think a lot of people in this thread won't care what my response is, and will assume bad intentions no matter what I say here, but hey I like talking to players and I'm also apparently a masochist (I also think this will reach a lot of players that are genuinely interested in the answer here)

So there's a lot covered in this thread and I will try to answer as much as I can. Let's start with the main question, which I don't think is specifically about "Skin politics" since events like this and spirit blossom are massive events that stretch WAY farther than just skin. I think the real question being asked here is "Did Riot care about event ROI (Return on Investment) when choosing the Champions that got skins? ' ' The answer to that is that of course we did....

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Originally posted by GGABueno

:c I hope it comes back eventually.

I loved it, was also super fun to find questions! We'll for sure bring it back sometime, unsure of when

Originally posted by GGABueno

They're going to continue this Lecpardy between games, right?

Right?

No more LECPardy today, but we'll have tons of other games, so be sure to stay tuned!

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Originally posted by Summaa

Great job :D Was the freestyle section written or actually freestyled?

The post credit scene was an actual freestyle. But we had to keep the initial one consistent for editing reasons. Otherwise I'm sure Vedi would have freestyled. Lol