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What, do you mean to tell me Karthus the Deathsinger isn't a music champion? :O I am shocked! Shocked, I say!
Not that he expresses it in-game through anything except his ult, but still! :D
True, Karthus and Bard and kind of musical as well
I have played a ton of Seraphine internally, and I don't think she feels anything like Sona to actually play in game.
The problem isn't that she feels like Sona, the problem is that she occupy the exact same niche as Sona as a music theme enchanter, her spells are strikingly similar, serve about the same purpose.
She is exactly what a Sona rework would look like and god knows that Sona need something else than cheese strat to be relevant.
Being skillshot dependant doesn't matter, Riot has a long history of reworking p&c/autotargeted ability into skill shot to allocate more power to it.
The real question you need to ask is: In which scenario should I pick Sona instead of Seraphine if both are available?
I would pick Serphine if I was playing midlane and Sona id I was playing support. Don't get me wrong I think Serpahine will be playable support, but I think she will be primarily a mid lane mage, which is different then a enchanter. Mid Sera plays like a wombocombo AoE ranged damage mage, which feels pretty different then Sona imo
This is not the time to show your face as a Rioter.
I don't mind actually, I have pretty thick skin. I love Seraphine as well, she is super fun to play in game :)
What about complete overlap of thematic?
I mean its our 2nd music champ. We have like 20 Champs with swords, 2 samurais now, several fire mages. I think its ok for champs to have thematic overlap as long as the champs feel different enough from each other. Music is a huge theme, and we could probably make another champ with a music theme and it could still feel different from both Sona and Sera. For Sona she is hitting the music aura theme. She is playing music and its effecting the allies around her. For Sera we went with a more rhythmic music theme, where you are casting spells and every 4th spell echos, kind of like how music is made on 4s.
All I see is just a Sona 2.0 with a little extra. Mid mages have been very lack luster tbh been the same thematic (neeko, sera) for a while. Maybe it's time for a male mage?
I think people should try her out before judging to much from a ability breakdown video. Many people had similar reactions to Lillia, Yone and Samira but once you play those champs in game they feel very unique and different. I have played plenty of Sona, and also I have played a ton of Seraphine internally, and I don't think she feels anything like Sona to actually play in game. For one, she is a VERY skillshot reliant champ which feels way different then Sona. The big reason she feels unique though is her music passive which makes each 3rd spell you cast, cast twice. This leads to having to think about which order you use your spells in to get different effects, and gets you into like a musical 1, 2, 3 and 4 rhythm when you play her that feels really different then any other champ. Idk, that's just my thoughts playing her of course, I think you should try her out for yourself before jumping on the Sona 2.0 train though.
u/Reav3 how do you guys pretend to balance her around mid if the players will probably play with her just as a support?
We believe she will be played support as well as mid, and we are ok with that. Her ratios will make her more the viable in mid, and since all her damaging abilities are skill shots it should be pretty reasonable to tune. There are other examples of champions that are tuned to be viable in both mid and support (Lux/Morgana for example)
The Baddest skins could still be chromas of these ALL OUT ones.
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Yeah, i noticed that too but didnt want to bring attention to that incase rito will read that and change name in WR too :D
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We either already fixed this today (possible), or I can't reproduce the bug. I'm adding a sapphire crystal, tooltips suggests I get 8AD from it, and my AD gains 8 in the stats panel.
Thanks for reporting it!
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