Well, most people here want to play multiplayer with the new update.
We encourage you to update. :)
We are actively looking into this and are adjusting the map generator in order to create a better experience.
Also, why remove the original continents map in favor of the new one, rather than just adding a new map? I preferred the old map
For 2 reasons:
It was actually a very common complaint among fans for being really bad. Like, one of the most common complaints over the years.
The reason for 1 is that wasn't very "Continent-y". So, that's what we did, make the "Continents" map into something that better aligns with the name.
Of course, the game has been played on the old, "not really very Continent-y" map for so long that people aren't used to the new one. The old map has flaws, often with spawns and resources, and we wanted to fix them by throwing it out and redoing it entirely.
There has been talk about moving Perfection/Domination over to Lakes, which is similar, but that's not confirmed.
can we just have mirror maps? why does the map need to be random in every game mode?
Officially, we consider "exploration" part of the Polytopia experience. After all, it is one of the 4 X's in the 4X genre.
We are looking into the map generation and contents of the update. Expect patches soon.
Just noticed that a bot ally is able to use my dock (thereby blocking it) and I am able to do the same on theirs. Is this new? Hadn’t noticed that before.
Yes, it's new. You can use an ally's ports.
Read moreToo right. Things needed to change and things will change. I definitely agree that Bardur and battleships needed to be nerfed, but the pendulum swung way too far. Bardur is unplayable against most tribes because their economic engine just went up in cost by 50% as did their network/mobility. They need two low-economy techs to get on ocean - it's like paying with an piano on your back.
Meanwhile Polaris and Cymanti - already two of the strongest tribes, are the new kings of the realm. Their movement advantages are now worth probably 10-15 an turn 0 and their key counters - battleships and mathematics - have been nerfed. On continents maps where one algae or ice tile can get them across - forget it.
Bombers are borderline useless. They're vulnerable to basically every dash unit and impossible to protect against Polaris/Cymanti/Elyrion.
I like the change from CH to markets and the intent to get tribes on the water faster. But "on the water" is useles...
So, the large majority of fans seem to agree that Polaris is currently lower tier and Bombers and Kickoo are OP. They also seem to agree that Bardur isn't all that bad, and that the nerf did its job to balance them.
Is it only on steam?
It's on mobile as well.
I don't hate it by any means. Still one of the best games I've ever played and I've put in thousands of hours. I just find it harder to play now that it takes soooo long to get populations up per village. I like the new boats but I'm finishing games at 30 in perfection and barely pulling in 50 stars a round. Still love it though it's just a MUCH slower paced game, now.
We're just going to need time to fine-tune things.
"Too fast" is also a problem.
You don't, as it doesn't have multiplayer.
Maybe in the future, though.
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We're still in the process of supporting it, and we ask that you stick with it after it gets a few patches.
We're currently working on improving the map generation and looking at the Market and Bomber, for instance.
And why no leaderboard? Do you feel that it would make the game too competitive?
Nah, it just never came up. Not including one wasn't a conscious decision - we just never added one.
So do you have any info?
We currently have ELO, but have no plans for a Leaderboard.
You can ping him by typing u/Zoythrus, not @Zoythrus
Oh, I found a weird bug. Biggest map, max number of players, single player. Polaris has one last city, but every time some enemy troop steps into the city ends up frozen at the beginning of the Polaris turn. Polaris has no troops left, nothing that can freeze an enemy. Unwinnable game through endless chess.
That's very interesting. I'll have to investigate.
After playing a single player game as Elyrion, I can say I hate the update... If the map type includes water in a significant percentage (which is most of them), you are forced to develop your navy early and the Elyrion becomes a race as any other. The dragons are there to give a helping hand eventually, but you can replace them with bombers anyway. The old fun way of trying to dug yourself into defence while pushing for the dragons production is dead - too many enemy troops can easily punch through an early game defence. The swordmen are nerfed too much to be the only backbone of an early game army. I wonder why any new player would bother to buy Elyrion. And I find myself less and less inclined to start a new game "just for fun", no matter the race. For me, Polytopia lost that "just one more turn" appeal that made me play it for hours.
I can say that Elyrion is being set up for a dedicated rework I'm this patch, and we warned everyone at the beginning that balance might be a little wonky at first until we do it.
I can also say that we're going to be releasing a patch for the map generator pretty soon, while also maybe doing a few rounds of balance passes for the naval units.
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