if this was intended as a test why did you charge us runecoin for it?
Would you prefer to have just one item without the opportunity to choose, if I may ask? Personally, I believe that by making both versions available rather than just one, we fulfilled a demand from many players.
Wouldn't the better way to test the designs be to give the players all of the designs?
Also, the profits are higher by them being standalones, so it seems rather obvious why the bundle would be delayed. There being absolutely no mention of the situation just makes it seem even more like the team was told to maximize profits from this.
The bundle could've easily been made available still, with a note saying not all items are available right away and will be added.
I'm not sure whether I can change your mind. It is a side project that we intended to be entertaining and engaging for the community. We truly wanted to make overrides that the community will enjoy. And fortunately, there are a lot of supportive opinions there.
We will release new overrides soon, probably one by one, and those who want to purchase a full bundle at once can do so when all items are released. Others who purchased the bundle's individual items will receive a discount.
I think a Reddit Q&A would work well, though my biggest suggestion would be to post a summary of questions asked & answers given on the main RS page news post once it's completed. That's been one of my biggest shortcomings with the current communications - players have to chase around a bunch of different social media sites to get answers/news from Jagex, rather than seeing everything neatly conveyed on the RS site. For folks like myself who generally have very few opportunities to go sifting through a bunch of different threads to find stuff, a clean summary in one expected place each time info is released would be stellar.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to so many folks' threads today, Miva! It's greatly appreciated.
Yes, I agree, having it on our website would be excellent. But players typically make those lists far more quickly than we would do.
So we decided to run this "test" to see which version you prefer.
How does this test work when the pack gives both variants...?
And didnt you guys already test which people prefer with your "which variation of dragon scim would you prefer" poll a month ago?
There's a mountain of precedence to assume this is just a way to squeeze more money, especially when you dont make this clear in the new post:
We still intend to release all overrides as a complete bundle. However, we may release single items along the way.
I'm sure some people wouldnt be wasting money on the standalone if they knew!
We decided to give both because the opinion was split. And we worked on both of them. While polls show that many players prefer a "true retro style," the other half praised the newer version. Players who purchase both this and the final bundle will receive a discount on their purchases.
I think whenever there's not been communication for a while and there's a lot of questions I think it might be worth while dedicating two stream slots to it as generally after a gap there isn't enough time in 1 to answer everything. Obviously there will be a lot of questions for all sorts of topics and it would likely be impossible to answer everything but going into it with the above in mind might be helpful for clearing the majority of things up.
You are correct. That is why I believe a Reddit Q&A will be an interesting variant to try. We may answer more questions.
This is the sort of thing that, if communicated in the news post itself, would result in far less negativity.
That's an interesting point of view. Thank you very much. Perhaps we should include those comments in our weekly news posts where appropriate.
Yes, but I’d be worried with the tension right now that it would be flaming the mods because they’re frustrated.
Yes, I fully agree. We are aware of the tension and wish to address it as soon as possible. We really want to establish the sense of one team rather than two fighting camps. So, I'm hoping it goes well and that the community asks "hot" questions without crossing the line. It will help to keep us on the right track, which means we may see more initiatives like this in the future. It's easier to face and address feedback when you know the other side is respectful.
Mod Hooli must have the easiest CM job ever. A stream happens once in a blue moon and he is rarely active on social media.. I knew Shauny's boots were impossible to fill but woah..
Normally, I try not to engage in such debates, but I'd like to explain something. Please try to be objective and listen.
Within the Community team, there are various positions with varying roles and responsibilities. Some positions are more visible to the players, while others are more "behind the scenes". The department head is usually preoccupied with a broader strategy, whereas community managers interact with players and deliver messages from developers and other teams. As a result, I believe it is unfair to compare two distinct roles on the same spectrum.
Hiring a public facing CM would be a better idea. RS3 lacks a "mod light" figure.
It's not about hiring a new CM; it's about having more active and transparent communication with you. Valid feedback. Thank you.
Does this mean that if i get the bundle now that I will also get the future retro overrides for free or are you still double dipping?
I believe that if you purchase the entire bundle, you will receive a discount on any previous items purchased. I will double check it.
As opposed to having 0 communication? Yes.
Ideally Jagex would raise community concerns in the Q&A and we would get responses, similar to what Jagex's Oldschool Runescape team does EVERY WEEK.
This was something the RS3 team used to get nearly every week as well. But then you guys stopped the communication.
Thanks for your feedback. We need to talk about it as a team and figure out how to address it.
Should this planned 'Roadmap update' be delayed for whatever reason (and thus not be released within two weeks)... PLEASE be transparent about it and make a new reddit post.
Giving an estimate like 'within two weeks' is brilliant and very much appreciated, but PLEASE don't follow up on that with radio silence if it happens to not be ready in time. Communication is key.
I am very transparent. We are working on it and our plan is to release it within two weeks.
Thanks for the quick response!
If we buy the pack released today will we get some discount / credit towards the bundle or will the eventual bundle be the other 4 items?
I will double check but I believe you will get a discount.
Are we going to have to purchase each individual one separately? I like that we get both styles but one bond for each one seems a bit steep given it was a player voted idea.
I will copy paste my message from another thread here.
Initially, we intended to release everything as a single bundle. But the more we worked with you, the more we wanted to ensure that we were on the right track and that the overrides would not disappoint you. So we decided to run this "test" to see which version you prefer.We still intend to release all overrides as a complete bundle. However, we may release single items along the way.
Wow still no stream.
Has Jagex decided to remove the streaming department and only make it an OSRS exclusive now?
Will a Reddit Q&A session, for example, be a good place to ask questions and get answers?
Hello there,You are correct. Initially, we intended to release everything as a single bundle. But the more we worked with you, the more we wanted to ensure that we were on the right track and that the overrides would not disappoint you. So we decided to run this "test" to see which version you prefer. We still intend to release all overrides as a complete bundle. However, we may release single items along the way.edit: spelling
In 2019, Clan Broadcasts were done in a way that meant at the time I was able to add them in-game as that has the biggest impact (of course the amazing Engine team made the work happen so the content itself could be added).
Lobby stuff would have made the update take longer in itself, but I hope we see it one day for sure!
What happened to our monthly headline update?
What happened to our monthly headline update?
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Could you please explain?
Thanks for taking the time to say something is coming. Small step that makes a noticeable difference.
I'm glad it provided some clarity. I understand how important it is for you to understand the current state of the game, as well as what to expect and when. And I hope we can address it in the next two weeks.
Can we get a new roadmap?
Yes, soon.
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