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One thing I didn’t see in the news post is a roadmap for next year, or like an announcement for when we will learn about next year. Is there plan for a overview stream in December like last year?
If we can share one, I personally would love to cap the year off like that, but I can't make any guarantees on that so right now I'm gonna say "Maybe, if we can."
Awesome, awesome, news post and months ahead. Thank you, I’m so very excited for the next few months. I can’t wait to challenge Vorkath and to maybe get my hands on that new phat! Good job to the entire team!
I'll be sure to forward on your excitement. We can't wait either!
Is the in-game clock gonna be fixed by then?
Holy Zamorak I hope so!
I was hoping that you'd react - I saw your post recently about events and I was excited to see your response, and you delivered!
This event is awesome, don't let the doomsayers here give you the wrong idea. People here will always complain unless they're given free handouts. I'm hyped for this event and to finally have a black phat in rs3! Thank you!
Everyone who talks to me is a Doomsayer, though... no? Happy Cake Day - glad we could mark this occasion with such a big wave of news!
Not gonna lie, that doesn't make it any better for me. "Here's a reward that's amazing, but don't worry you're not meant to ever get it".
The rest of the event stuff sounds amazing, but I'm against super rare time limited chase items in general.
That's totally valid feedback, but I want to stress that it's not a chase item. This isn't about chase rewards. It's about introducing a new, Christmas reward. Ideally, you'll see this as you see other Party Hats: "I know that this item was from Christmas!" and that the person with it was incredibly lucky.
You won't be left wanting for cosmetics, though! The seasonal quest contains a guaranteed reward and you get a new cosmetic every week for 1 nice point (you can earn 3 of those each day by: talking to the event host, completing all 3 of your daily challenges and doing 1 seasonal activity) and if you miss a week, you can catch up whenever during the event and trade 1 Nice point for each thing you missed.
Would love some clarification on the turn-in window for the Nice Points. One part states a Sunday turn in at a specific time, while another says they can be turned in whenever. What’s the difference, is there an advantage for being able to turn in at a specific time, and how does that play with time zones?
The two hour window is just a for-fun bit of flair. Couple of fireworks, couple of laughs, but it is in no way required to be there. You can claim your reward during and any time after :)
D'aww poor Zemo he just really REALLY needs a win
He's just a widdle guy trying his best.
The Christmas actually sounds... Cool, but I won't get my hopes up, let's see how it actually turns out.
You're well within your rights to have measured expectations! We'll share more as we get closer - but when we do, I expect raised hopes and full hype!
Makes it feel like you need to be constantly logged in the game in order to get the rarest of the rare drops, especially given this is a time-limited event.
Counter to the Vorkath cosmetics event which have distinct goals (with BLM if working like golden cape/ph), and can still be earned after the fact via boss drops.
It feels very "FOMO-ish"; having an uber rare in which your chance goes up the more you play, and is only around for a short period of time.
I'm not sure I understand?
only a small number of players will end up earning during the course of the event - even the most dedicated helper to Santa isn't likely to find it (though you will be guaranteed other Christmassy cosmetics!)
While I appreciate that it's time limited, we've got a generous timeframe in mind and the idea is that we're introducing this as a Christmas item that makes a recurring appearance every year, like the new Seasonal Quest, so that it's not a "one and done" thing.
People getting the Black Party Hat should be an incredible moment, and so we want it to feel like nobody has to chase the reward - it could happen to anyone!
The black phat being incredibly rare really recolors this as one big FOMO event. Yes there’s a quest and all the rest of classic RS holiday goodness, but it all feels overshadowed by the scramble to be one of the lucky few who get a rare.
Because it's not the reward. It's not designed to be chased.
This is about adding a distinctly 'Scapey special moment that could happen to our Christmas events, not as something you should come in expecting to find.
Someone getting a Black Party Hat should be an incredible moment - one that can happen across Christmases to come. The reason there are no paid routes to it is because it could happen to anyone:
even the most dedicated helper to Santa isn't likely to find it
I hope that helps shed some light on this.
why only 2hrs to hand in nice points???
why? why?
it should be way more than 2hrs, at minimum 1 day to hand in. not everybody can get on at those timeslots... or am I reading this wrong?
The two hours is just a window where you can see some of the build up. You can claim your reward any time during and after the window has passed.
Super cool! I take it this was your quest then? Always excited to see a new one (especially Christmas themed!) from you! Fond memories of the Violet quests.
Don't go in with expectations of a Violet quest, but it hits similar beats and does justice to what we believe is in the spirit of a classic Christmas holiday event.
It's cool and people internally have really enjoyed it.
If that is the last quest someone needs to complete, and its not Christmas, does that mean they have to wait til Christmas to get the Quest cape?
No, it's not required for quest cape.
I assume not part of the Quest Cape then?
Correct. It's in the quest system as a full quest, journal and everything. But no quest points and it doesn't contribute towards quest cape ect
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On the Christmas event, while I like the general path forward with this (significant amount of in-game only rewards), I generally dislike a 2 hour window to gain weekly rewards (even if you can catch up during later weeks).
In theory, having a limited time make for a more community feel, but it feels exclusionary. I might be wrong, but just strikes me as odd.Edited: The "catch up" can happen at any time during the week, so my concerns with this are moot.Black PH is great you can't (directly) pay for more rolls on this (aside from having alts on alts), but I really dislike the release of super rare tradeables. I get it drives player engagement, and likely very beneficial for players getting it, but just doesn't feel good.
Vorkath event is awesome; effectively guaranteed cosmetics, with them being on the drop-table after the fact. Love this; no notes.
On the beta, I really hope there will be functionality in the future ...
It's not a 2 hour window to be clear. The communal Lodge moment is just for 2 hours at reset as a way to hand in, but you can also hand in any other day at any other time:
"Nice Points can be handed in once per week, resetting with the opening of the Lodge each Sunday. You'll also be able to hand in your Nice Points at Santa's Sleigh any time during the week if you can't be there for the communal Lodge opening on reset."
Each Sunday from 8pm - 10pm Game Time, you can turn in your Nice Points to Santa at his Lodge.
This seems really bad if we're stuck to only being able to get rewards at this time. Which confuses me because of this next paragraph.
You'll also be able to hand in your Nice Points at Santa's Sleigh any time during the week if you can't be there for the communal Lodge opening on reset.
Can I just hand in at any time and claim rewards anytime?
Yes, this is correct - you can claim at any time, but the reset happens every Sunday evening and in those few hours, you can be part of the communal Lodge opening and share the experience together! Nobody's missing out if they're working Sunday evenings!
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On the Christmas event, while I like the general path forward with this (significant amount of in-game only rewards), I generally dislike a 2 hour window to gain weekly rewards (even if you can catch up during later weeks).
In theory, having a limited time make for a more community feel, but it feels exclusionary. I might be wrong, but just strikes me as odd.Edited: The "catch up" can happen at any time during the week, so my concerns with this are moot.Black PH is great you can't (directly) pay for more rolls on this (aside from having alts on alts), but I really dislike the release of super rare tradeables. I get it drives player engagement, and likely very beneficial for players getting it, but just doesn't feel good.
Vorkath event is awesome; effectively guaranteed cosmetics, with them being on the drop-table after the fact. Love this; no notes.
On the beta, I really hope there will be functionality in the future ...
On the Christmas event, while I like the general path forward with this (significant amount of in-game only rewards), I generally dislike a 2 hour window to gain weekly rewards (even if you can catch up during later weeks).
It's just a bit of fun and flair, you can go any time after the flair fun event and claim. No need to find a Sunday slot you can attend to catch up.
this entire newspost is one big W, you guys finally get it, an event that gives cosmetics and finally after it ends you put it back into the game through other means, the black Phat being really rare is ok, but it not being p2w'able is a big win as well, and an actual holiday quest to top it off.
I think I speak for the majority of the playerbase that THIS is exactly what we've been asking for!
I'm glad to hear it. I'll be looking forward to collecting lots of feedback around everything we've shown here when you get hands-on with each respective part of this - feedback is crucial to us, even when it's just "This is fun!" or "I'd like to see more of this." because that helps me collate data to give our teams a point in the right direction.
I'm SUPER excited for you guys to get hands-on with everything in this post. Everything I've seen so far is incredible.
There really is no pleasing this community. So much info dropped and all I see is crying about a rare being rare. Classic.
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