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25 May

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Originally posted by ShyNoir

Completely agree with WHY the commander was there and that it wasn't a grief option, all of what you said makes sense for the Commander to grapple with. I just feel it could have come from a character closer to the Commander, Rytlock has also had to deal with these problems as well and he has a personal bond to the Commander that would have resonated more with him.

My gripe wasn't what was said, I agree with everything Chul-Moo said and it makes sense for all that happened to weight heavy on the Commander, my gripe was with WHO said it, and what it implies (the reasons I listed above).

My gripe wasn't what was said, I agree with everything Chul-Moo said and it makes sense for all that happened to weight heavy on the Commander, my gripe was with WHO said it, and what it implies (the reasons I listed above).

Gotcha. But Chul-Moo was one of several main characters in this episode so we decided to intersect his arc with the Commander's because of their shared burden. You have to remember that not everyone playing EoD played the base game, so there are times where we'll focus on recent events and characters instead of going all the way to the beginning.

We did, however, call back to the Commander's past traumas. In some cases it was about a friend. In other cases, regret for a mistake. Or in the case of Blish, about coming to peace with the fact that he made his own choice, and it wasn't ours to dispute. About letting go of the idea of control when you clearly aren't the one in charge of somethin...

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I have come to the conclusion that the narrative team is trapped in a fractal.

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Originally posted by Poskmyst

And its addition has seemingly 0 rammifications on the world at large when it should be a massive world changing event as you say. Yet it seems as if though only destiny 2.0 are the ones using it.

The fact that I have never really concidered this before is almost worse. We see so little of how this world works that it is not even odd that we don't see how it would change after the intercom is invented.

Yes, yes scope. But could we at least get to see something that could convince us thay Tyria is an actual world with its own internal logic.

Most of the writing budget focuses on the interdrama a handful of characters that acts as if they live in California but with Elder dragons. Those characters are at the very least the center of the story. I wish that the world was in the center instead, I feel like its a lot easier to pull that off in an MMO, especially one where the character driven parts of the story has to be told with voice acting.

Most of the writing budget focuses on the interdrama a handful of characters that acts as if they live in California but with Elder dragons. Those characters are at the very least the center of the story. I wish that the world was in the center instead, I feel like its a lot easier to pull that off in an MMO, especially one where the character driven parts of the story has to be told with voice acting.

Ideally we're creating environments and populating them with characters, events, and lore discoverables that make the world feel rich. But the world is always the set or backdrop to the foreground action. Either we can make it big and world ending (e.g. Elder Dragon threat) or we can push in and make it more intimate (e.g. What Lies Within). Both have their advantages and compromises.

I've heard comments from folks on both sides: "Make more personal stories! I'm tired of saving the world!" vs. "I don't care about this character! Give me a bi...

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I have come to the conclusion that the narrative team is trapped in a fractal.

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Originally posted by Poskmyst

Yea to me personally, that communication device might have been the worst addition to the narrative in the entire game. I hate it.

I understand that its very convenient for them, they can have characters communicate with each other without having them get together or send mail. They rely on it constantly and if they did not have it they would have to tell their stories in a very different way.

I just hate how small it makes the world feel, how "modern" it makes it feel. Time and space means less.

Guild wars is a game where you always zip around instantly, going from activity to activity, the distances and travel is noneexistant. Its sad to me that the story is treated the same way.

The commander and gorrick can be in Cantha one minute and then in rata sum the other just to look at some of Blishs papers. The journey between contintents being of zero concern due to waypoints and Asura gates being part of the Lore.

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Yea to me personally, that communication device might have been the worst addition to the narrative in the entire game. I hate it.

I get that, but you have to remember that GW2 is an MMO, where players are spending most of their time in the open, shared world. It's very difficult (and often buggy) to have a companion ride along with you from place to place, area to area. Now imagine having to juggle 50-100 players all with their invisible friends who only they can see following them around a map to do a story step. It's not really how the game was designed, so the choice is to make it an old timey quest step (plant character in place, talk to them, get quest, come back for the follow up dialogue) or solve it in other ways. Comms help us deliver plot points, character beats, and other world lore without tying them to a physical location or forcing them into an instance.

Not saying comms are perfect. Some folks don't like magitech in their f...

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I have come to the conclusion that the narrative team is trapped in a fractal.

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Originally posted by rym1469

It doesn't help that a lot of the more recent writing has been using modern lingo and acronyms that destroy immersion you might've had. When a character in a fantasy game starts talking like my coworker, it stings. Hopefully we won't get to tik tok vocabulary next, fr fr.

Also, NPC 4th wall breaking self-awarness sometimes doesn't make any favors either. Even in this patch, hearing Rama remark how we go for the trope of defeating boss with a power of friendship. I get it, occassionally this may be funny since it is a video game, but when too common and combined with null feeling of threat, it's only annoying.

Even in this patch, hearing Rama remark how we go for the trope of defeating boss with a power of friendship.

This was a nod to all the players we knew who'd be commenting on "the power of friendship." ;)

Plus it's in Rama's character, so...

I have come to the conclusion that the narrative team is trapped in a fractal.

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Originally posted by ghoulbakura

That's because it has. At several points in GW2's history they cycled through a new writer every couple of months. The writers in charge of the best story beats in the game no longer work there. We're now stuck with a lead who thinks the height of story deliverance is to ensure that the commander can't go a single conversation without hearing a minimum of five sassy remarks and three jokes. It's like the worst parts of Marvel's writing on steroids, and this appears to be it from here on in - there was a good amount of feedback after EoD that people struggled to connect with the story due to the characters feeling the need to deliver a one-liner almost every time they spoke but clearly Anet felt they know better.

We're now stuck with a lead who thinks the height of story deliverance is to ensure that the commander can't go a single conversation without hearing a minimum of five sassy remarks and three jokes.

I felt that this episode compartmentalized the comedy much better than previously. Serious moments, like in the final combat mission in the mine, saved any banter for the very end. 95% of it was devoted to dealing with the threat at hand.

The epilogue, which was always meant to be a palate cleanser after all the demon hunting, was intended to be a dinner among friends and slightly awkward.

I get the criticism that you'd like less comedy in the game (or less in the golden path), though. Curious to see what folks think about the next couple things we've got planned.

I have come to the conclusion that the narrative team is trapped in a fractal.

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Originally posted by PM_ME_YOUR_MESMER

I think my gripe with the story is that nothing happens unless we, the commander, make it happen.

Tell me about another huge threat on Divinity's Reach, and how Logan and Rytlock, along with a couple of our favourite characters handled it and that we don't need to worry about it. These guys are meant to be heroes, undoubtedly people that our own Commander grew up hearing the tales of their adventures. They shouldn't need me to help them out at every turn.

The only instance of this I can think of is when Braham took his party up north to fight Jormag. Sure, but it's not enough.

Let the world move on around us. Have a monthly "movement of the world" blog that we can read on a website even. There are definitely more threats around Tyria (and beyond), let me hear about them.

I think my gripe with the story is that nothing happens unless we, the commander, make it happen.

This is the challenge. Some of the community wants the Commander to have agency. Others do not.

The more I think about it, the more Chul-Moo being there with Cinder bothers me.

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Chul-Moo didn't go as the Commander's friend. They don't know each other super well. But the trip was a form of catharsis for them both.

Chul-Moo's arc started in the first episode as a leader losing faith in his abilities, carrying the burden of accidentally killing one of his crew who had succumbed to the demonic influence. Like the Commander, he had blood on his hands. He made a decision that resulted in someone dying. His presence here was to listen to the Commander processing similar guilt--of being someone with responsibility who made some calls that resulted in people dying. The Commander was not grieving Cinder. She was the enemy. The Commander was trying to grapple with the heaviness of being a leader and accepting responsibility when something goes wrong, because it's inevitable.

Also, waypoints.


24 May

Just a screenshot that I took

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This is hands down one of my favorite environment sections in the entire game.


22 May

How Much Do You Game Per Week?

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Originally posted by BobbyStein

During release weeks or when I'm in the mood I might play 1-2 hours per night (7-14 hrs./week). But when I'm taking it slow I might pop in for a few hours per week. Depends on what's going on in life, my energy level, mental state, etc.

If it's a raiding/fractal weekend I'll play for 3 hours or more in a sitting (well, I use a standing desk but you get my meaning).

How Much Do You Game Per Week?

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During release weeks or when I'm in the mood I might play 1-2 hours per night (7-14 hrs./week). But when I'm taking it slow I might pop in for a few hours per week. Depends on what's going on in life, my energy level, mental state, etc.


01 May

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Originally posted by TheExtremistModerate

Well, it's still gave me a chuckle a couple months ago when I first noticed it.

Yay!

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Originally posted by TheExtremistModerate

Yup. Something like "Who wants a horse that talks back?"

I wrote that silly ambient scene like 15 years ago. LOL


07 Mar

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by Varorson

This makes me wonder how Thaddeus Ghostrite's audio got bugged out. Happened years ago (maybe when the Fear arc got removed or restored?), but during The Ghost Rite, Thaddeus no longer has the risen FX to his voice, it's normal now. Always figured it was just the FX was failing to go with it.

This makes me wonder how Thaddeus Ghostrite's audio got bugged out. Happened years ago (maybe when the Fear arc got removed or restored?), but during The Ghost Rite, Thaddeus no longer has the risen FX to his voice, it's normal now. Always figured it was just the FX was failing to go with it.

It's likely just a case of a bulk backend process that accidentally reverted a file that wasn't supposed to be changed. If you have the info I can pass it along.


03 Mar

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by Wooperss

Was it a NPC in Lake Doric at the lumberyard?

Because when that map came out I SWORE I heard an NPC say that line and I couldn't believe it. So I told some other people and they didn't believe me. I said where I thought I heard it and sat around for HOURS waiting for the NPC to say it again.

Everyone thought I was crazy and eventually so did I, but I guess I wasn't?

I think it was an asura outside Rata Sum. But it was a long time ago so I may be wrong. LOL

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by Swordbreaker925

What a stupid change. Hearing someone as gruff and serious as Rytlock say “clusterfudge” is so f**king goofy and childish.

What a stupid change. Hearing someone as gruff and serious as Rytlock say “clusterfudge” is so f*cking goofy and childish.

It's a bug. The original, processed line cut him off with static so it implied...the other F word. A bulk processing import must've caught a wrong file or two and paved over the old one. It's been logged and sent over for review.

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by pushedmynan

Hey, you're that Rytlock Trombone, the revenant, right?

Hey, you're that Rytlock Trombone, the revenant, right?

A classic line from Season 3.

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by Rhywolver

Thank you for you answer. I'll do that, but since the "Crane"-thing, which I reported a year ago (as far as I can remember, I won't be mad if you prove me wrong) has never been fixed, I don't have the feeling that somthing happens... but I'll try!

Thank you for you answer. I'll do that, but since the "Crane"-thing, which I reported a year ago (as far as I can remember, I won't be mad if you prove me wrong) has never been fixed, I don't have the feeling that somthing happens... but I'll try!

Is the "Crane" thing also a localization bug? (Loc is a separate department so I'm out of the loop on any issues there.)

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by BappieJ

Okay, I just started playing last year and it is WILD to see you link a video I uploaded just cause I loved that line ahaha.

LOL


02 Mar

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by Rhywolver

I really hate to bother you, but since you are here and talk about minor details in the voicefiles - could you tell me if it's just a bug or intentional, that half of the voiceovers for the german version of the new story update are missing? For example Rama and the Norn male character are silent during the first chapter while Gorrik is fine, other players are missing more lines in later chapters.

Just asking because I want to be sure if it's just bugged or somehow abandoned, since - sadly - bug reports about bad translations seem to be ignored since EoD release (example: Crane (the bird) = "Kranich", not "Kran")

half of the voiceovers for the german version of the new story update are missing

If that's happening, it's a bug. Can you submit that via the in-game tool, please? Thanks.

Was Rytlock's "clusterf---" dialog changed?

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Originally posted by Bionic164

Do the Charr use the same shampoo as humans? If so, how much do they use? I have to imagine it gets real expensive.

Do the Charr use the same shampoo as humans? If so, how much do they use? I have to imagine it gets real expensive.

Whatever they use, it's working. Ever notice how soft Rytlock's fur is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pNdjas4uQ