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So let's say I have 100AD and the turret has 0 armor so I am hitting for a clear 100 damage every attack and my basic attack as a ranged does 100 damage not 80, while a melee champion with 100AD will do 120 damage not 100 ?
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So let's say I have 100AD and the turret has 0 armor so I am hitting for a clear 100 damage every attack and my basic attack as a ranged does 100 damage not 80, while a melee champion with 100AD will do 120 damage not 100 ?
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Turret plates take -20% damage from Ranged Champions
Cries in measly mage autos
this is actually not the most accurate representation. it would be better to say turrets take 20% more damage from melee champs
turret plates gained damage resist vs anything that's not a melee champion, but turrets lost armor and mr so that damage is roughly equivalent
More clarification
Turret plates gained 18% damage resist vs anything that's not a melee champion
Pre 14 minutes, outer turrets have 40 + 40 per lost plate Armor and MR >>> 15 + 35 per lost plate Armor and MR
Post 14 minutes, they have 40 armor and mr like before
Which literally means VS Live, melee are dealing ~ 120% increased damage, and ranged are dealing ~2% reduced damage
Read more"We look at 4 different tiers of play when approaching champion balance:
Majority (most players fit here) The sample size here is massive and the main things we look at are win-rate, play rate, and ban rate.
High skilled (roughly plat+ MMR) Same as Majority but slightly stricter on criteria
Elite (really high, like Grandmaster+) Winrate starts to fall apart up here due to sample size, so mainly look at perception and ban rate
Pro play Look heavily at the overall systems and presence% of picks"
"If a champion is “OP” in ANY of the 4 tiers, they should be nerfed"
Apareantly, this didn't apply to Riven back then, so she wasn't nerfed for a while (even tho there were nerfs for champions that weren't "op" in all 4 tiers either).
So how come Rammus fits into "If a champion is “OP” in ANY of the 4 tiers, they should be nerfed" now? Rammus is stomping low elo, but on a low playrate. He also does great in Diamond and Masters, but at th...
Playrate is generally not used to compare champs unless it changes dramatically - Rammus in general will never be anywhere near Riven in terms of popularity assuming equivalent power since relatively fewer people (understatement of the year) want to play as an armadillo in need of a vgu VS an edgy warrior with amazing skins - so judging them against each other via playrate would be wildly ignorant of non-balance impacting factors.
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Except in elite / pro, where we assume that players are optimizing heavier for power rather than personal enjoyment (or perhaps rather they personally enjoy winning more than other factors), since the top of the ladder is self selecting for players that do what it takes to win.
So from our perspective, Darius is a reasonable champi...
Read moreJumping in here to ask whether the AP bruiser itemization rework you teased around a year ago has been completely scrapped, and if so, why?
not currently being worked on.
I can't speak as to why we decided we needed to work on it in the first place; my personal opinion is that we have a plethora of AP bruiser items (almost all AP items are hybrid offensive defensive stat lines), and instead should be looking at champ kits
Buffing Bork and Hydra
Not nerfing Yi.
Okay...
at least we aren't also buffing him this patch
Shame this comment got looked over lmaoooo
i appreciate it
So what you’re saying is that top lane Sona/Soraka will now run a reverse boosting strat where their jungler just runs top and dies over and over again so the passive still works.
perfection
nonono 200 years of experience could never make a mistake
yeah u right I think we should actually buff rammus here. How about another 5% attack speed and attack speed ratio
Remember when Riven had 56% winrate on a 15% playrate last year but wasn't nerfed for months because she was low winrate on Vietnam or something?
How come then that Rammus is getting nerfed because he's 54.1% winrate on a 3% playrate, ergo, mostly mains????
The info is already out there but I suspect you aren't actually willing to look for, so I'll correct you here.
She was never that high - except maybe in M+, where sample size is like 300 games per patch and totally unreliable (ie: on 9.05 it randomly went up 6.7% from 48.1% to 54.8%). For most players, she was ranged from a 47-53% winrate.
Vietnam has a roughly equivalent or larger ranked population as NA so I don't know what to tell you.
AND she was specifically too strong in NA (if we include other regions like EU, KR, CN, or, yes, Vietnam she was fine)
heres a relevant post from the time for further enlightenment: ...
Read moreDo you still plan to release it next patch ? Its not in scruffy list.
maybe its already released :U
Poor Rammus gets to 52% and must immediately face the guillotine once more.
hes 54.1% over ~90% of the player base (gold and below) :> Buffing him along with cinderhulk was probably a mistako
How does Sett hit not any thresholds with 52% winrate 15% pickrate 50% banrate and being pick and ban in proplay? And how exactly did Singed hit the threshold? That one Bwipo games must have been too much right?
His pro presence is not high enough to trigger (>=95% one patch since he was last nerfed 10.3). 52% winrate is within reasonable bounds, but at the high end for a champ thats significantly banned.
But sett is over that (53.8% jungle Avg Elo) and is getting nerfs for 10.5.
You have been consistent in restricting a single defensive stat in offensive items from a design standpoint.
Armor - Zhonya, GA
MR - Maw, Banshee, Wit's
Why are you not following this rule in DD's case since you are giving it both mr and armor?
The item will be meta defining given how busted it is... please respect your own design philosophy!
sorry wut
Out of curiosity when a champ does hit the pro threshold do you guys plan on nerfing them the following patch since pro play starts after you guys plan the next cycle's balance changes
not sure I understand the question
The latest Pro Play data is used to inform balance, but disregarded if we've made changes to champs since whatever patch that pro play data is on (ie: Aphelios OP in pro right now, but they are playing on 10.3 and we nerfed him in 10.4, so we won't nerf him in 10.5 because of pro)
This is complicated a little further by the fact we generally don't like nerfing/buffing the same champ in back to back patches since we like giving champs time to settle
Is it cause of people starting building it as second item after tri force for 40% cdr that u think its fine as it is? Is the team looking in another 20 cdr option since even champs like jax and irelia who do split are doing it?
Cleaver to me is more of a landmark item that we should tune around rather than tune
I hope you revert the 9.19 Ornn Buff that is a big part of why he is so strong rn.
:U
i wish i was a bot
:U
Have the Black Cleaver changes been decided yet?
there aren't any cleaver changes
You can say "200 years" for a lot of decisions, but in this case they are following a balance framework for mandatory nerfs that they have made fully transparent. They didn't have to nerf him in 10.4 because he didn't meet any nerf thresholds during the 10.3 patch. It is likely that he will meet such thresholds (or be much closer) during this patch with the sunfire changes (I think squad5 said this IIRC). In that case, he would be nerfed next patch.
If you take issue with the thresholds that they've set, that's one thing, but that isn't the same as them being incompetent.
he still doesn't hit any thresholds (pro is not on 10.4), but we plan on nerfing him as a separate call
There's only one real tweak to support items, it's the "ally nearby" requirement.
I was confused as hell by those changes, just realized they're the preseason changes that are already live. Ignore all the value changes as they're old news, no idea why they're there.
yeah this confused me as well >.> think S@20's bot bopped itself
btw dead allies count so if you adc jumps in a fire and leaves you alone in lane their corpse still counts x.x