Hey what the hell i spent hours stacking up points in the BH shop on my ironman so i would always have plenty in hand in case i ever lost my rune pouch and various other items and now you're going to be removing the old shop? not really fair is it i don't wanna spent 10s of hours building my points back up again only for them to be removed later on. Not cool.
How would you feel if we converted your existing points to the new ones when the time comes?
Actual feedback about the beta from someone who played it.
Jagex, can you fix the incredibly dumb exploit where you can gear up in Bandos and then set your def to 1 and bully all the pures? Or 40 def with veng.
We're planning to fix that with this week's update.
We'll look at either changing the curve for receiving points to feel more rewarding or increasing the value of the crates - or a combination of both.
Please do. I went 25-0 in 3 hours of playing the beta and still couldn't buy a 60k dragon scimitar from the shop. That same KDR would have made me 5m in emblems alone pre-rework.
To be clear, those shop prices were just placeholder and not balanced yet! The balanced prices can be expected in this week's update.
Read moreRune pouches will potentially become a lot more difficult to obtain. Make them tradeable and offer them for a reasonable price in the BH store
Because emblems were originally transferable through death and later made tradeable the rune pouch has been a buyable since release. Pre-rework a 6 killstreak was sufficient to get you one pouch so the new cost from the store should roughly reflect that. Even the most recent proposal of 75 points would make rune pouches far more time consuming to get than before either buff the rate of point gain or reduce the cost of the rewards.
Poll some new rewards with a target KC requirement down the line
So that people who do not like PvP will have to go out of their way to vote no.
This reworked BH is looking to be a lot less profitable than the original BH
I understand why you made it so that the other player requires an emblem of the same tier or higher to up...
Awesome, thanks a ton for this feedback.
We'll consider making the Rune pouch a lot cheaper not just in BH, but the Slayer shop too (polled, of course).
I want to add more rewards to the shop, but the way we go about this is TBD. It's not clear that polling only to players that want something is a good idea - the team is having a meeting to discuss this later this week.
We'll look at either changing the curve for receiving points to feel more rewarding or increasing the value of the crates - or a combination of both.
We can tweak the tasks in the way you described and add some of the ones you suggested - things that require specific equipment to be used still aren't possible though.
Sorry, poor wording. I’m trying to start a discussion on whether it would be a good idea to make a player able to own and use more than one rune pouch at a time, since that seemed to be the sticking point on making them tradable at all.
I'm pretty sure it's not technically feasible - rune pouches open a unique inventory where you can keep some runes. Even if you have multiple pouches, they'd all open the same inventory.
That's not good enough, Wilderness Slayer without emblem drops will be absolutely terrible.
Then we can increase the the average value of the rewards from Larran's chest too. This is bearing in mind that Wilderness Slayer was already buffed with the addition of Larran's keys. The purpose of the content is to get Slayer points faster, not gold per hour.
Do beta worlds still not have any quick gearing QoL.
Even just JMods tagging items with 'pk' or 'zulrah' for searching would make sifting through a lot faster.
Or just snapshop one setup after you gear, and that snapshot can be lost on logout so it's just temporarily stored idk 😭
You can gear instantly using the load-outs.
Are there many scenarios where having multiple rune pouches would be OP? This could be a good time to consider that question since they want to make it tradable but are stuck on the fact you are currently only allowed to own one.
Only things I can think of are ZMI and pking on normal spellbook. Maybe some kind of CoX strategy, idk?
You wouldn't be able to use them individually so it doesn't make you any more powerful anywhere.
Are ironmen allowed to use this system to trade gold from their mains?
Ironmen won't be able to participate in the new emblem system to avoid that exact scenario.
I recommend that you make the challenges give points based on their difficulty/risk. Example: Killing a target without using protect item should be worth more points than not using a special attack or kill with range/magic/melee otherwise I'm sure there will be some people will skip and never do. With each being weighted in difficulty, they still may skip the challenge often, but I'm sure would be willing to try to do the challenge more than if they were all weighted the same.
This was the original plan, but we need more tasks. If you have suggestions for any, we are keen to hear them!
PLEASE ROLL BACK. This update is terrible. Why would you affect the main game without polling the changes? I get you have an open beta for the new content, but that shouldn't have leaked into the main game at all. why change the emblems without warning? /u/JagexGambit this makes it incredibly inconvenient to get rune pouches as well.. so right now ( if you were to not have enough points in the bountry shop) the ONLY way to get the pouch is through slayer points. Make emblems people have earned their points for tradeable until the new update is polled
They've been hotfixed back onto the Wildy Slayer table. They will be removed with the full launch instead.
You can’t have them just disappear off people’s accounts. Not everyone continually plays and many could easily miss the announcement and be stuck with you guys pulling items. That’s not fair and you need to come up with another option, like having a ghost somewhere in the world able to buy back the emblems or design some random event that targets accounts which have them like in desert treasure that pesters the accounts which have them to make them sell them to ensure these players aren’t surprised
I don't think we'd add new content for the temporary process of encouraging people to use their remaining emblems. What we can probably do is send reminder messages to players who still have them when they log in.
/u/JagexGambit /u/JagexSween Was the price of the (cosmetic) Granite clamp meant to be 1000 points or 100 in the new BH shop?
Looks like the maul handle upgrade is 600....
We'll re-balance and cost those prices before full launch. I can't imagine the handle will stay at 600. Thanks for the heads up!
What about wilderness slayer? All of this dev time to just add one additional reward to the shop and take away emblems from wildy slayer....
We're adding Dagon'hai robes as a reward from Wildy Slayer with some of the rewards from the BH shop like the RoW and MSB upgrade scrolls potentially moving there as well.
Edit: "moving" was the wrong word. They'd be added to Wildy Slayer, but still available on the BH store. All this would be polled.
In the Q&A there was a straw poll for lowering the cost of rune pouch bought via slayer points. Is this still being considered and when will this change be polled/made? Asking because I am thinking about buying one soon.. :)
Yes - we're still very much considering this. It's not clear yet when the change will happen (it's not even guaranteed), especially since opinions vary a lot within the team. The best thing may be to poll different costs.
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Only the new emblems which come from the emblem trader and be exchanged for GP. Now it's a zero-sum system to there's no effect on GP inflation and not profitable for farmers/bots.
Hey /u/JagexSween /u/JagexGambit alongside both the MSB (i) and ROW (i) could the Clue Boxes also be added elsewhere for Ironmen to receive?
We'll take a look at that too - thanks for the suggestion.
What kinda supplies are we talking about? I was thinking about if this could be a way for ironmen to get hold on brews, super restores, ranging or even super combat potions early on. Given how the stamina potions inside ToB became an issue, please be careful with this.
Thanks for the heads up - we'll take that into consideration!
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