RiotDashiJador

That would be amazing to be honest! I would love to play against difficult bots.

I will say, one of our goals is to deprecate and replace all current bot features with our bots (so at some point we want to enable our new bots on customs!) but we need to get the bots to feel great first and then those areas are easier to extend to.

Please do try them out when we hit PBE and let us know how we can further improve them! Also, let us know of any bugs or weird behaviors!

Okay, gonna take off my dev voice and say...

BRO I HATE THIS sh*t. After I played with a player who did this the first time, I told my team we need to make people who do this have a bad time against our bots as this is unacceptable for anyone in our game. I could not imagine the pain a new player would experience running into this kind of behavior.

Okay Game Dev voice back on -- we made it so our bots will recall and kill any player who tries to enter their base prior to 5 minutes. Given this strategy is primarily intended to farm account levels (from what I am personally guessing -- if players know other motivations, please let me know!), we want to make sure our bots can adapt to these new strategies anyways.

If we still see consistent behaviors like this, we would just want to adapt the bots to be flexible enough to handle countering them over reducing the player's autonomy.

In regards to smurfs/player-made bots, I do think this is on top of mi...

That is why Renekton would do it without the other bots doing it, yep yep!

Oh yes, just like a normal game of League :D

Yep yep! When we do our full launch, we will replace Intro / Beginner / Advanced Bots when we do a full launch to ensure there is a smoother feeling ramp up into PVP

I would be curious! My gut says not for our intro-level bots, but only you can let us know!

I do think you will prefer our advanced bots when we release & iterate on them though since we want to ramp up the bots quickly :D

Yay! I would love her feedback especially then on what she liked/did not like.

I do not want to flag anything, as ideally you can give a fairly unbiased opinion and I would recommend going in with a mindset of being a newbie and just giving all feedback/pain points/recommendations you have.

Yep yep! Hopefully, the bot test goes well when we hit PBE so we can ramp quickly into making the Beginner/Advanced bots :D

For PBE, we do not really want to do that as PBE is located within NA, so offering an incentive might get a bunch of players from other regions to download and be a downgraded experience for all players testing since ping would be pretty bad.

But we are talking with other teams about some rewards for testing out the bots when we hit live servers to encourage a bunch of peeps to try it out!

Currently, we are using Behavior Trees as a starting point but we want to investigate supervised learning longer-term as we can supplement or replace our Behavior Trees with parts of ML where it makes sense in a tree. (Ex: something that changes every 2 weeks is probably a good candidate for ML due to it frequently changing.)

I feel you homie, I also want advanced bots so I can play a more even match, and I agree with you that beginner/advanced queues are more important for players.

From a dev perspective and a tech perspective though, ensuring that our bots have the fundamentals in place and testing them at scale will make Beginner/Advanced queues fundamentally easier as both are built on the backbone of intro. :D

When we do launch these bots to players on Live though, we 100% plan to replace all 3 at once. It would be a very weird experience as a new player to go from Intro (where jungling and taking objectives exists) back to the old bots where there is no jungle and no objective taking.

Yea, when I was a player, I was always super hyped when Rioters would respond so I try to pay it forward (especially since I joined the League dev team! Prior I was on Wild Rift and Player Support, so not a lot of relevant information for this group!).

Please do try to test the bots out on PBE! We do expect everyone to crush them, but our hope is our bots feel a lot more like true players (albeit true newbie players!)

This is something we are talking about internally, but we have to wait to see how good the bots are, and we need to have a Bot available for each champion.

Once these are available, then it would be a discussion on what would be a good implementation, as many games handle this differently so we would want to be thoughtful on if/how we go about implementing it :)

<3 I try my best!

In what way? :0

They will play the game to the best of their abilities against each other as 2 distinct teams with 4 distinct champion brains on each side.

I have already looked into a tool like this and unfortunately, there really is not one for a case like this on PBE.

I am hopeful that when we get to live, we can figure out some working system for more iterative improvements we want to make after we launch! :D

Not for the PBE Test... But maybe one day if enough players ask for it ;P

Yep yep! Currently our goal for the PBE tech test is about ~30 but we want to ramp to a wide mix of old/new/popular/easy/complex so that new players can get a taste of all flavors.

Ideally long-term, we can have a bot come out with a new champ release (but that is much further down the roadmap as we need to make sure our tech is sound prior to expanding it.)

Currently, we are using simpler champions for this PBE test to focus on the basics of all champs feeling good over a specific champion feeling good (Ex: Using Spells, farming, laning, etc. over ensuring Yasuo knows his wombo combo or Evelynn being able to use her Ult to escape)

That said, we do want to ensure all popular champs and commonly seen champs are covered quickly after we launch to ensure players can learn to play against them prior to going into normals.

For the PBE Tech test though, I believe we will have a random mix of current bot champs along with new bot champs as we also wanted to have coverage of both while testing (and y'all are getting our testing champs for this launch :D).

Praise be Lil' Devil Teemo Bot!