Have you given any though to merging pubs and ranked lobbies, with the only difference being if you select ranked you are subject to LP loss/wins. It needs further conditions, but you get the idea. This would mean shorter queue times and a broader pool for MMR to do its job.
People don't go into pubs with the same mindset as ranked.
New matchmaking by hidden Matchmaking Rating (MMR)
As if this wasn't already a thing in the last several seasons.
I play very little Ranked, in fact I only used to go there to get more casual matches ironically and for several seasons now I've not been matched against actual low rank players at low ranks, just smurfs and other high skill players that happened to be at low ranks at the same time.
You can read more about matchmaking work in this blog we posted a while back: https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/matchmaking-2023
Why go to what many saw as the broken arenas ranked matchmaking?
Or the whole hidden mmr that halo ranked had that i believe they recently got rid of? Why hidden mmr?
And this seems like all the ranks are going to be officially mixed up now since its going to be matching with mmr instead of ranking.
this seems like all the ranks are going to be officially mixed up now since its going to be matching with mmr instead of ranking.
Ranking is tied to MMR.
Under the hood, there are MMR requirements for each rank that we didn't discuss in the blog (and will be obvious as players reaches their skill peaks) .
eg. Players in Diamond need to perform at a certain level. Unskilled Players attempting to creep up their LP via ratting (without interactions) will struggle as the matchmaking system challenge them with more difficult matches that are appropriate with their rating (which these players will likely lose and drop in LP). In that same situation, the bonus system will detect players trying to rat and withhold unearned bonuses. Their progress upward will dramatically slow down, purely rating is suppose to be an ineffective strategy at climbing.
Please don't be as bad as the ranked arenas system🤞. Hidden mmr was implemented horribly in arenas. +15 ap for going against full diamond team, then -70ap for losing against them. Even though youre gold 1...
It's a new MMR system design specifically for Apex's Battle Royale, and we are using a different matchmaking system from Arenas. We took learnings from Arena when designing this new one.
Question:
Is there still a rank gate that prevents players from teaming up if their rankings are too far apart? Will this be based on LP or MMR?
I ask because I play the game exclusively with 2 IRL friends. Both of them being single/childless have far more free time than me. If they choose to chase ranks will I be prevented from partying with them even though our MMR may be similar but they have more LP? In the current system we avoid playing Ranked unless we're all online to prevent this issue, but is the new system going to change that?
Yes. Same ruleset as previous. You should land somewhat near each other if your MMR are about the same.
Love seeing a dev chime in on the thread, appreciate all the hard work you and the rest of the team put into a game that's given me much entertainment (and stress) over the past few years
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Read moreSome thoughts:
Since "KP" no longer scales with placement, the new system greatly discourages fighting, and conversely encourages ratting much more strongly than the current system. Right now, after reaching Platinum 1 or so, you gain zero to negative RP if you get zero kills/assists in a match, even if you rat to 3rd place. Compare this to the new system, where you will now earn 150 LP (i.e. 15% progress towards the next division). Keep in mind that this will apply whether you are in Bronze 4 or Diamond 1.
This means there is no more roflstomping your way up the lower ranks, because: A). The MMR matchmaking means the teams you face will always be close in skill to your squad, B). The rank you are in no longer influences the teams you are placed against. That means players who favored racking up kills to gain RP (even if they are highly skilled) are now at a massive disadvantage. They will either score a bunch of kills against lower skilled opponents (which earns ...
In fact, if a highly skilled player pefromed unusally badly during the 10 provincial matches, in theory they could even be hardstuck in Bronze, because they will always be matched against players of equal skill. The wildcard is the Rating Bonus, which (if generous enough) might be able to get them out of the lower ranks relatively quickly.
We have specials rules in place to protect against this worst case.
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If you remove negative points it becomes a system based solely on who grinds the most and not who plays the best
If you remove negative points it becomes a system based solely on who grinds the most and not who plays the best
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I'm extremely good at the game. But I actually love playing against top players. My only complaint is that my teammates are so bad, no-fill is far easier. Otherwise, my teammates bait me or die and drop a box of loot for the enemies and let them know we aren't a full squad anymore.
Why am I getting two level 40s who don't break off of the drop and steal all the loot in front of us? I once played in a mostly pred lobby where one of my teammates didn't know how to heal. He played the entire game with 30 health and no shield.
Just to put some actual numbers on this: I kept track of my teammates' average damage in trios for a week. They averaged 84. My average teammate over the course of a week was good for 84 damage per game. That is egregious.
Are you playing ranked or pubs?
Just out of curiosity, how come you equate being good to knowing how to super glide or tap strafe? I don’t know any of the movement mechanics but have played with a bunch of people who you see doing all kinds of movement tech that I end up doing much better than.
If you can aim, shoot, move, and do aerial acrobatics at the same time, chances are you are good at the game.
Engagement optimized matchmaking makes you fodder for higher skill players as long as you keep playing. EA patented it
Apex Legends does NOT use EOMM.
* screaming internally *
What region/data center are you playing on?
What time do you play (Peak vs Off-Peak) ?
What is your highest rank? (Give me an idea of how good you are, do you know how to super glide/ tap strafe?)
What queue are you playing? Ranked and Pubs have different matchmaking tunings.
I am assuming you are a high skill player playing in Ranked. We are only testing changes on a few selected data centers, and the matchmaking changes (under test) are most obvious at the lower end of the skill distributions, which might explain why you are not noticing the matchmaking updates (under test) .
Do they mean that they have done some changes and are going to see if it improves matchmaking over the weekend or the opposite?
We are testing the changes, collecting a few days of data, then turning it off.
Thank you for responding ❤️
I'm an xbox player who was on PC servers (cross platform link) playing on London data centre
Tyty
Which server/datacenter are you on?
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To OP's questions; You've picked up a gun another player have skinned with their own preference. Clicking that button will allow you to reset the skin of the gun to your own.
LMAO i swear I was so pissed yesterday when I kept being paired with rookies on gold lobbies. Some of them played the part so well!
I mean, if they were indeed a Rookie and they climbed to your current Ranking, it means they are definitely on their way up, or they are highly underrated. :shrug:
Not always. I ended last season Gold1 but mine sometimes shows Gold4
Interesting. Noted.
There's a bug where sometimes it says your teammates are Rookie 4. Otherwise if they show non-bronze, it's accurate.
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