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Originally posted by Zimzams123

As expected from the title - no, no you've misunderstood. At no point in Dova's post does he suggest that anything on the 50%+ winrate list is as good as azir/irelia. Thats not the point he's making. He is not comparing azir-irelia to all the things on that post.

"a player can have success using 74% of the champions that exist in the game right now,"

This is literally true.

Players use 74% of champs to win more games than they lose. This is a fact. That is exactly what this says.

Do those champs have what it takes to become a new tier 1 deck? No, at least this simple winrate stat alone doesnt suggest this.

But thats moving the goalposts. What he said was a player can have success with it. And that is categorically true.

Sure it may be true that one player can have success with Anivia in the meta right now

Yes that was what his argument was. Also he stated things that are...

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Originally posted by _Kingsgrave_

u/Dovagedys

Hey I counted the Champions you listed and there were actually 45 total, not 43. The first list was indeed 39. The number of missing Champions from the total lists of 49% or above is 16. So the percent is even higher and its even more impressive!

Also, I'd like to know if these Champions are from Ranked, Normals, Gauntlets, or just all games. Is it all regions as well?

Anyway, the 16 that their highest winrate decks are below 49% from what I can tell are:

- Aphelios

- Fizz

- Hecarim

- Jarvan IV

- Karma

- Kindred

- Leona

- Lucian

- Lux

- Malphite

- Riven

- Swain

- Taliyah

- Taric

- Viktor

- Zilean

Originally posted by swimstrim

Also, to clarify, there are still some equally ridiculous claims on the other side of things, stuff like "irelia never should have been printed". Personally, I'm glad that we have a new archetype that plays really uniquely, and that it uses ionia and shurima, two regions that were kind of struggling with their identity before. Is it too strong? Oh absolutely.

The thing is, and this is I guess a hot take, but I'd really rather they print new stuff "too strong", rather than "too weak", especially when that new stuff is able to bring to life a new playstyle to figure out. When Lee Sin archetype got a total of like 5 buffs across 2 balance patches, sure he was super OP but I was very happy with this bolder stance on balance; an opinion which people were pretty outraged at hearing at the time because, well, he was super OP for a bit. But I think bold balancing and having to deal with a strong new deck for a few weeks is worth being able to have a new unique and viable arche...

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Originally posted by Bycharo

I'm really curious what are the other 6 decks rn that are outperforming azirelia considering that the top 6 right now are variations of azirelia according to mobalytics, does that mean there are not going to be changes to this deck and are the other top decks getting nerfed? Anyways it's really cool to see a rioter sharing some insights with us !

Originally posted by TheSkilledRoy

Cool thank you! This was via mobalytics, glad that the internal stats are telling a more accurate story. Is there any idea as to why these stats might be just be outdated or inflated in this case?

Originally posted by Dovagedys

Hi! Thanks for sharing the source.

I'm not sure how that information is being collected or aggregated, but our internal data doesn't reflect a win rate nearly that high.

Internally, we are seeing the most successful Irelia decks around 53% win rate and trending downward over time.

Originally posted by TheSkilledRoy

Sure, its currently pushing nearly 60% Wr with over 70k games played. This is even in a meta where people are attempting to counter build it. Link!

Originally posted by Battlemuffins

I took your advice and started playing again. I've had an absolute blast. There are so many new toys to play with, and outside of the FotM Irelia/Azir, ladder seems to be filled with a very diverse cast of decks that seem to change almost daily.
The new gauntlet mode is a pretty neat idea. I haven't gotten to try it yet, but I'll get on that.
Labs is really fun. URD is something special when played with friends.
I'm slightly upset because I didn't realize I was missing out on the KDA all out event, so the card back I really want isn't available anymore, but who knows, maybe in the future?

The only thing I could say that the game really needs is a replay system. Back in the duelyst days I would spent lots of time saving/watching my own replays to think about what I did wrong and things I could have done better.

You guys are doing a fantastic job over there. Thank you so much and keep it up!!!