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We could do for sure, I think there's an element of Clog feeling a little less deterministic than CAs and therefore being more apprehensive to tie anything that might feel like a strict gameplay buff behind it. Opinion still seems split on whether or not adding actual perks to CAs was a good or bad decision and doubling down on it here might have been difficult to figure out whether we want 'scaling' rewards (which is scary given the nature of clogging) or 'static' rewards at one tier, which might make it feel like a 'complete 200 log slots and then stop caring' additional passive grind.

It should average out to 80 seconds with these changes, but there's still potential for us to go further if it's felt necessary after today's changes!

Correct yeah, just cosmetic!

Can absolutely raise it as a feedback point that checking out Skips and whether or not a 'free' skip is possible if there's a big discrepancy!

Perhaps Husky can speak more to this but I'd imagine it's because those higher tiers are the only really 'competitive' tiers and if people want to compete then it makes sense to keep up with the curve, but for people lower down it's nicer to have fixed goals to work towards and know that you'll definitely get them!

During the Game Jam, Husky shared a Twitter poll asking what people preferred between static/percent and results were super split - this felt like a compromise that might suit both approaches at the right time.

Not today no!

Absolutely potential to expand on the reward offering down the line, but for now we felt as though we had so much stuff in there that wasn't realising its full potential for stat imbalance or usage cost reasons, made more sense to tweak what's already in there than add more stuff in for the time being!

Team are looking into this, once we can figure out what's gone wrong with this in this week's update then we'll start looking at what we can to do restore any lost items. Investigating a short-term fix that should prevent players from removing the kit in the short-term while we work on a more permanent solution.

Next week!

Replied to a tweet to a similar effect, think we could consider instead having the effect occur at fixed intervals so that no CAs gets two 'returns', master CAs get three and GM gets four, though I don't know if that enters into annoying territory vs. just bumping the damage number up for a longer duration (potentially scaling it a little more, so double duration but 2.5x damage or something)!

The limiting point is an interesting one, I had a chat about this with Mod Rice a little while ago who brought up an interesting point around how reward space can kind of 'expand' and 'contract'. You absolutely can argue that it limits future upgrades, but having a 'tier' of reward that ultimately introduces new BiS by eliminating switches doesn't creep power too much, and then you can follow up by expanding outwards and getting style-specific upgrades again rather than just flat-upgrading a tribrid boot, which brings back another decision for people to make.

Totally appreciate this reaction because my initial one was similar, but I think my thoughts have changed with it being framed that way, I don't think it's a limiter at least!

Note that this isn't a project I'm specifically attached to, but thought that might have been an interesting point to share on this specifically!

EDIT: I remembered Rice's example! Amulets! Start out with basic 'style-specific' am...

I think this was primarily a change for mobile users, since the disparity between using pouches on desktop (Runelite in particular) and mobile is pretty large. Broadly the 'partially full' comes up with the Colossal Pouch, which would want a right-click (or RuneLite MES shift-click 'fill' in the bank window) for the second fill, but becomes much easier to empty and craft quickly.

I'd be curious to see what you're running into at GOTR with other pouches that's leading to partial filling, thought most people grouped small/giant and medium/large for two sets of 15, where you'll always have ample space.

Inferno runners pointed out that in content where your energy is drained by outside factors, these changes don't really do all that much. The streamer himself didn't even input, and all I've said is that I'm happy to pass it onto the team for their thoughts. Note that if such a change were made, it would benefit people brand new to the Inferno as well as speedrunners.

Clickbait aside, I don't think there's anything wrong with considering the thoughts of niche communities and actively seeking out opinions that aren't always driven to the top - OSRS is the sum of its parts, and these high-end players are absolutely a part of it. Passing feedback on to the team is never a mandate that it'll absolutely happen, only that it'll be discussed!

You'd have to check with your individual setup and Agility level. I think you might be able to get away with it if you're doing 3:0 Mage hand and walking where possible (rather than 12:0/8:1) and walking from pinky to thumb for 4:1, but I'm not sure. Unlucky head phase might also make it tough to do without a stam, but I'd imagine you'd probably get through fewer doses.

Also keen to see how Dorg feels with it, underrated course (I'm just a big fan of Dorgesh-Kaan in general, think it's such a neat area for its time and it's a shame that there's not all that much to do there!)

If pouch empty, then left-click fill.

If pouch not empty, then left-click empty. Meaning it applies to partially full pouches (largely only an issue with the Colossal pouch) and will still left-click empty on your second use.