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09 Oct

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It would indeed be helpful to have just to be sure yes.

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Yes, this is most likely the one Jaguar A will get.


No new news so far.



Nothing on the ordinance so far.


Well as we already mentioned, at least 1 more is in current plans in some form. But that can always change. We cant give details right now.


Not at the moment, since we dont have cluster bombs of any kind in game.

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At the moment we are testing all the fixes and stability improvements worked on over the last few months. That's why we haven't properly announced en mass that it's open as we are monitoring it closely to make sure it's all functioning ok. It's possible it may be closed at any time if issues begin.


Bug reports and feedback of any issues are really useful at this point in time so we can solve any issues asap.


08 Oct

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Once we are at a stage where the maps are mostly reworked and everything is as desired, its possible it will come under review again. But its for the developers to decide.

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Not in any immediate plans no.

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Lots of people want to see lots of different things and we do our best to deliver as much as we can. However not everything is possible in the way people want to see it. Just because its wanted, does not mean its actually viable to come.


Posts were removed as Ive asked before and now asked again for people to remain on topic. Helicopter EC can be discussed as much as you like and with as many opinions as you like, just as I said before, in the correct section and not just constantly dragging this topic away from its subject matter because you want to talk about it. Its not going to achieve anything.


Your entirely free to do so constructivly, in the correct place: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/1593-helicopters-discussion/



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Except they wont be whenever they come, because helicopters are primary used and intended for combined arms battles where the vast majority of people play them.



I play my G-LYNX and Tiger in there a few times a month for some games whilst working on my trees. Not really sure what that has to do with anything as my personal opinion is irrelevant to the matter.


Im also not sure why we are still discussing Heli EC after I asked that the discussion please be moved to the correct place: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/1593-helicopters-discussion/

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They are certainly drawing closer, but we are not going to start giving specifics or indications just yet.

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Grippen is a 4th+ generation fighter and even later than the Viggen already denied. We are absolutely nowhere near this right now.

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A lot of the missile armed helicopters that people take issue with are actually the thing that improved the population in the mode. Before them it was even lower. So thats exactly why removing them or splitting them is counterproductive as it damages the mode more. It has never been the case of an unwillingness to do something. If you read what I said, as I explained, a lot of considerations and proposals were discussed, but thus far almost universally they would cause more harm to the mode currently which is what many cannot take into account.


Regardless, this discussion is not for this topic. So lets not derail it further please when we have dedicated section: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/1593-helicopters-discussion/

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Im not sure why its believe to be "close" or "almost finished" in the first place. Weapons and ordinance are added all the time into game code. It does not mean that whatever they were attached to is also "closeby" or nearly here.


Viggen is pretty much the last major jet for Sweden to be added at the very top end. Its also a bit ahead of where we are right now, so its not planned to come soon.

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We have already answered this to a degree several times. As it is the smallest populated mode in the game, its not really possible to implement a lot of the suggestions people put forward in the way they want to see it. The developers are aware of the matters expressed, but so far there has not been a workable conclusion that is viable for implementation. But if we have some more news to share on it we will.



Significantly improved since the summer and we are still working on it. There isn't really much more to say as whenever we have technical issues we explain the matter there.



Again, also already answered including again today with Tank only. Other game modes are done via events. We dont currently have plans to introduce more modes on a permanent basis, as every time we do, it divides a playerbase and leads to the very same issues that now face Heli EC. The ...

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If you go back through, you will find that actually almost all of the major things people ask have been answered and explained. The point is, we are not going to keep repeating things every 6 months.


The difference is you and others perhaps disagree with the answers, but that does not mean they have not been asked and answered.

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Its not always possible to include all modes all the time, particularly when a lot of the same questions that have already been asked and answered before are the ones coming up again and again. But yes, in general we have a range of questions from all over and all addressed by the developers.


You are welcome to hold your own opinions and disagree with the answers, but that doesn't make them not "viable".

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It is, but thats because it generally was. The French A had Magics and flares in streamline pods. Jaguar GR.1 only got Sidewider Gs later on and as we mentioned above, its countermeasures have to ocupy a pylon spot, so its counterintuitive and still being decided upon. This was of course improved in later models like the GR.1A.

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Hi guys. On review, we had an updated response from the developers on the Jaguars: "The Jaguar A and Jaguar GR.1 currently featured in the game have incorrectly modeled supports for the installation of the Tracor AN / ALE-40 flare units, which were installed only on later aircraft modifications. This will be fixed in a future update. The French version had its own Matra-Philips ARAL 1A / 1B Phimat system with a different mounting method. It will also be modeled in a future update. On the British Jaguar GR.1 (not to be confused with the later version 1A that was not presented in the game), in reality it was possible to install hanging containers with countermeasures, but the question of adding them to the game has not yet been finally resolved."

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The only ones intentionally updated where not ones paid for or unlocked in any way. If you believe you have had a decal(or decals) that were previously paid or unlocked, please submit a bug report as we will need to investigate fully along with any others.

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It wasn't so much all of a sudden. Over the past few updates we have been reworking requirements for things like skins and decals (in the case of skins most recently, making them easier to get). This fell into that category of the rework.