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We dont discuss vehicles that are planned until they are at such a stage where we can reliably confirm them via dev blogs or proper means to do so.

When its ready to come

This time around, unlike Regia Marina it wont be quite as much of a spectacle as its not launching a tree for example. But we are also progressively deploying lots of fixes/improvements in bigger chunks this time as you can see over the last week or so.

We are nowhere near that stage right now, so its far too early to say.

2 videos of people expressing their personal opinions and a topic with under 300 votes in agreement is not a "huge backlash by the whole community". For context, we have nearly 85,000 people online and in game at this very moment and as I said, Italy's numbers around the ranks where these vehicles were added are up as a direct result since their introduction. So they achieved their main purpose of both better balancing the tree and making it more attractive whilst more domestic vehicles are in development.

No other game is like War Thunder, so no, it is not the same at all and has no comparison to this.

Thunderskill only uses the data of those that use the site and the majority of people that use the site are high skilled / veteran players, hence why the AUBL number is high. Its not at all reflective of the actual numbers.

There was no "heavy backlash" over these machines. There is always those that disagree with changes, but in the wider community as a whole, there was no backlash and in fact, those tanks actually improved the numbers of Italian players and people playing at those ranks, achieving their main goals which was to create more balanced lineups and make the tree more attractive by filling gaps whilst other native tanks are in development.

You are free to express your opinions, but please do so in the correct area: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/396-general-upcoming/

If you want to wishlist:

This topic is not a debate on what missiles you personally want to see. To please cease with the off topic discussions.

As I said previously, when we have new vehicles to announce, they will be done in dev blogs.

The carrier models in development are in no way related to any aircraft that did or did not operate them. There is no link between the two.

The carrier models come when they come.

A Game Designer has nothing to do with model creation and model bug fixes.

In future yes as for all nations where possible. That includes jets.

We will show what will be in the update via dev blogs and the news.

I didnt so im not sure where that one came from, but I also didn't say they were coming. They come when they come.

USA never used that variant and right now there is no real need for another US Sabre.

MB.157 was generally needed in its position for the main tree. We have other considerations in mind for more fighters too for the tree

Indeed, but there is also a fine line between troll / meme / derp vehicles and actually interesting vehicles that people want to get. Event rewards should be aimed at the maximum number of people, not a small niche or with uninteresting machines.

This is a totally meaningless and irrelevant comparison as other games create fantasy, made up or mostly fake vehicles then with made up or values or features, much smaller trees, a mostly arcade and non realistic setting, a much narrower range of vehicles to choose from and with artificial advantages all of which don't occur here. Thats like saying "well the MP5 was popular in Call of Duty so why not in Battlefield?" - Two different games, different settings, different scenarios and ...

Guys. None of these planes are coming this patch. So please take the discussion elsewhere.

And now we are discussing nothing that relates to the next patch. Your questions have been answered, so please stop derailing the topic and take the discussion to the appropriate area: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/853-soviet-union/

From what I hear a Lightning can also catch a U2 spyplane and catch Concorde for days. Why? "Because someone said it could".

Im sorry to tell you that whoever you heard that from, has no clue what they are talking about. Like many of these recent "leaks" or "rumors" its people making up random things and pretend to be some "insider expert".

MiG-23 is not already "made and being tested" .

The current MiG-21s have been performing perfectly fine since they were added and were even dominant for quite some time. Even now they remain more than competitive.

As I already said, we have much more planned, including this patch for the USSR. But the notion that the USSR is somehow in last place in jet battles when the MiG-21s have been more than competitive and above what many other nations have is simply untrue.

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We sometimes do add skins for aircraft mid patch, possibly because they were being worked on before the major but at a much lower priority. For example if there are any model / texture issues, the devs are more likely to focus on that as we can always add the skins in later.

Nobody is being "strung along". People asked for an update and more information and the developers provided all the information they could in the current situation. When its possible to share more info, we will.

A few people being unable to keep a topic on subject and simply wish listing what they want to see over and over again is not a red flag. We cannot snap a MiG-23 model together, along with all the complex flight model variables, factors and unique elements that come with swing wing aircraft together overnight because a handful of people are demanding it be added. We are well aware of the interest for MiG-23 and its very much in the works. But models, development, new technologies and especially complex new flight mechanics like swing wing take considerable time and come with their own unique challenges (see the Mirage/Draken delta situation)

We have 9 nations in game, not just the USSR and USA. 3 nations have Phantoms all armed with Sparrows, not just the USA. 3 other nations on top of that also have long range missiles. France had to wait a period for its very competitive Mirage, as did Italy with its F-104.

Whilst...

And it has nothing to do with this topic.

MiG-23 is not planned to come this update. So its not on topic here. We have asked several times for it to be kept to the MiG-23 topics until there is a credible reason to discuss it in one of these topics.

We dont like to knock things of the list so early, but the topic cant go more than a week without straying back onto MiG-23 territory.

We always have a X.XXX.1.X update. They just dont always have names. Regia Marina had a name as it was the full release of the Italian Fleet too.