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These answers aren't really correct. You can look at the the players at the top of the ladder and almost all of them will be roughly around +-20.

The reason they don't get higher is simply because they are winning just as much as they're losing (50 percent winrate), because they aren't maintaning a 65% WR when they're at rank 1. They might have been when facing master, gm but not at the top.

Part of this is also because if they are actually that good (eg. Say they are 4000 mmr when the other 9 players are closer to 3000), then the teams will be balanced such that each team has a 50% chance to win (ie. The 4000 mmr player will have the lower players on their team). If the player is good enough, they'll be able to maintain that higher winrate and start to push the boundary (similar to what srtty was doing last season on NA)

Another interesting case study would be if you were to put a soloq god like showmaker or canyon in a much weaker server, you'd see the lp ...

There will be some updates in 14.23 including some adjustments to bounty accumulation in general and how bounties are tuned for losing team.

We're talking more about rules and system still needs some tuning.

We just swapped over to the "objective bounty method of determining lead" when bounty is active and that still needs some tuning to move to the new system.

Give us a few patches of iteration and it should end up better than the old system, but we need the live exposure to find such edge cases and things that are off. (more understandable, clear and fair)

Can you pass your opgg, we recently made changes to make this better

I'd be interested to see your riot Id plus tag. If you were high master, placing in emerald 3 seems very low likelihood of occurring. I'd be interested to dig in further to see what's causing it

There are some cases that are just egregiously wrong, eg. a Challenger solo queue player should never be rated as a Silver in normals.

We need to find the right values for this though, because we know that different people approach different queues with different motivations and play habits.

eg. Many people play different roles, play more with friends, play "trolly champions" and we don't want to apply a broad brush across all of these different motivations. So this will take some time

Like someone said, it adds a lot of systemic debt to the system (similar to mana potions), because in order to nerf early laning of a champion we have to tune it around the existence of biscuits (for example, historically tuning mage mana costs, Gangplank, etc.)

We don't think the mana is adding enough to the game that that systemic debt/complexity is worth it, in addition to excessively pro + elite skewing certain champions.

It's a valid concern that some champions are mana constrained and will find it hard to operate; we'll investigate case by case and follow up accordingly.

Can you post riot Id and tag?

I'm not sure what the original poster is referring to, but as far as I'm aware we're not planning on making changes to Voice Chat for China server

We had to back it out due to some issues but it will be back on in a few days

Hi folks,

This accidentally got into non-ranked several queues where it's not meant to be. We're working on a fix, thanks for the patience.

Skarner also does not exist as a jungle champion in China. He is only played Top Lane!

A major goal this season was to make sure people's skill was closer to their visual ranks, which would help to make games feel more fair. So yeah, agree we hit inflation down a good amount

Can you pass me a riot Id and tag?

We have a Weibo account here https://weibo.com/7800109999

and you can see China performance info here https://101.qq.com/?ADTAG=cooperation.glzx.web#/hero-rank-5v5?tier=200&queue=420

It has mostly been technical and legal difficulties in getting the data and their pipelines in a usable form that devs can use.

Fluid demotions has uncovered some deep systems stuff interacting in undesirable ways (due to some now invalid core assumptions about the behavior of lp) resulting in this behavior. We're investigating a fix, but it's a little more difficult than expected. Apologies

Thanks for posting, apologies I've been preoccupied while on a work trip. Will post some further commentary on how the patch has landed hopefully tomorrow.

You go up the same amount so 23LP in this case

We do think demotion protection at tiers is reasonable to allow players to protect their ranks a bit, but it will be a bit less lenient than before after the adjustments we made over the course of the last split

Ngl I laughed at the Renata thing. This is definitely some peak cooking. Reminds me of playing with captain gameplay in Dev. Some absolutely cursed stuff