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25 Sep

Deep Dives and Overclocks - FAQ

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Hi Miners,

Thanks to everybody for the feedback, both on the Experimental build, but also in general for the expectations for Update 25. This update is by far our biggest yet, and it even grew so big that we had to chop it up into two updates. This has created some confusion, questions, and speculations on what the experience will be and specifically for how to get the Overclocks. To sort this out, we’ve created a FAQ just on the topics around Deep Dives and Overclocks.

So Update 25 is not the complete Endgame?
In short: no. It’s more like Endgame: Part 1.

Update 25 will not release with the complete system for giving out Matrix Core rewards. Specifically, it will not include Blank Matrix Cores and Machine Events, which will be part of Update 26. Therefore, the total amount of rewards for Deep Dives is a bit less until Update 26 releases.
The time from Update 25 to Update 26 should be considered a transition phase, where you’ll be able to ge... Read more

Deep Dives and Overclocks - FAQ

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    /u/ on Steam - Thread - Direct
: You can find the details for this event on the announcement page [url=https://steamcommunity.com/ogg/548430/announcements/detail/1600390507851737552]here[/url].

24 Sep

What do Glyphids eat?

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Originally posted by adeon

Yeah, I just kind of started writing as a joke and the pieces fell into place.

That was great, thanks!


23 Sep

I was just touched by a god

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Originally posted by Dwarfurious

Oh but he is I have PM's with him from 2017 !

He most have blocked you. And me.

Troels is very lively. And he loves pesto.

So when? Does anyone even read it still?

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Is that at the end of the current survey? We usually do one per release, but that part hasn't been updated, apparently.

I was just touched by a god

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Originally posted by weveseenthem

I played a game with one of the devs. The only person they acknowledged in the room was the dude who had the paid extra vanity armour. Kinda made me feel bad low key because I've over 300 hours in game.

To be fair, that dude was wearing his super-secret support club badge. We love all of you equally. I promise.

I was just touched by a god

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Originally posted by Dwarfurious

19th bear is one of the really quiet and reclusive devs too; sound and music guy.

Nah, he's just not on Discord. :D


20 Sep

C4 has been nerfed and I am sad

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Originally posted by Howlingprophet

Make it so you can’t drop it in another radius/a certain distance away! Please Jacob - you’re my only hope 😭

Sounds like an easy solution at first, but that actually takes a bit of work to implement mechanically and lorewise it’s a bit weird. We might re-add it at some point, but it’s up to the designers in the end.

Honest feedback on the new shouts

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Originally posted by Wesley_H

Where are all these people that wanted new shouts...Discord? Because I don’t recall any recent thread here where someone was requesting more unless it was over a year ago.

It’s been a recurring request from many players, and is a natural thing for us to do alongside adding more content to the game.

A concerned Dwarf's opinion - Content throttling?

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Originally posted by Arrevax

Thank you and Pedro for your replies. Is this a confirmation that weekly promoted assignments and/or treasure chests can provide cores? Are treasure chests available during normal missions, meaning it's possible to earn new cosmetics and mods at a very low (RNG-based) rate outside of Deep Dives?

If so, I'm okay with the new system. I'd still rather be able to play randomized Deep Dives any time, but if that's the only thing completely locked behind the weekly timer (along with the leaderboard), that's reasonable. I get that you guys want to create something that might introduce competition, which draws in more players, meta-theorists, speedrunners, etc., which is fine— I'm sure plenty of players will welcome that aspect of the new content. It's just that locking so much content behind time-gated assignments that makes this all so sour; no one wants their regular missions to feel like a waste of time compared to those two or three hours a week when the exclusive rewards are ...

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Can confirm that assignments and chests will give cores, and the system will be expanded upon with the Machine Events in Update 26. Treasure chests are available only during normal missions, and are rare. We're still in Early Access, so we're listening to any and all feedback and taking it into consideration. Edit: I basically repeated most of what I said originally. Should have checked that first. :D

C4 has been nerfed and I am sad

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Originally posted by E-308

Didn't they just use this feature in the promo where they blew up a bunch of crystals? That's weird.

You were supposed to focus on the damage, not the tool.

C4 has been nerfed and I am sad

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Originally posted by Marigore

Didn't they say it was a bug in experimental?

Not a bug. The damage stacked and made it too powerful against dreadnoughts. It might return, but for now it's out.

[Experimental / Spoiler] All Overclocks - No mod screenshots

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Originally posted by TheDiscordedSnarl

I' m reading all the comments to this post... u/gsg_jacob what do you think? (edit: I mean what do you think of all the feedback you're getting here -- seems like many people feel the overclocks are underwhelming for now...)

We're reading and listening.

The base idea is that no overclock should objectively be bad. Subjectively, people will have preferences and opinions - not much to do about that. IMO, you can reduce everything to flat out numeric value, but the most important thing is how you'd use it. The PGL nuke will give you fewer uses, but it might be useful in other situations. Overall you'd kill fewer bugs, but it could be handy in choke points.
The way the overclocks are ordered are Clean, Balanced, and Unstable - the latter having the most radical changes, but also more drawbacks. I have some I'd definitely use, and others I wouldn't, depending on my own playstyle, but I'll definitely play around with it some more.
It's a work in progress, so we'll keep adjusting data and numbers where need be.

Anyone know how to place more than one C4 at once?

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Originally posted by OrangeGills

How do you summon a designer, is there like a ritual? Do I need a braided beard soaked in the blood of a short person?

Something like that, but now I did the legwork. "The damage of the charge was tweaked to be the most powerful explosion in the game. Stacking that damage in one area wasn’t intended and it removes the challenge from fighting some kinds of enemies."


19 Sep

I figured out why they are removing the bar in update 25.

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https://youtu.be/8X_Ot0k4XJc

Anyone know how to place more than one C4 at once?

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Originally posted by Cheapskate-DM

FYI, if you're trying it on the Deep Dives test branch, it seems to be bugged currently.

That's actually intentional, but you'll need to summon a designer to tell you why.

This is the most unlucky thing i ever seen in the game

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This needs to go on the official Twitter.

A concerned Dwarf's opinion - Content throttling?

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Originally posted by Theuncrying

Oh I see. Are enemy spawns also randomly generated or scripted? Because in the first cave of the Elite Deep Dive there's always a horde waiting right behind the first wall, so I'd say at least partially scripted.
I had the impression that Deep Dives were the main event of getting cores and endgame contents, but guess I'll hold my breath until update 26 then.
Being able to grind for cores and overclocks at ones own pace is what I'd love to have and I hope that the machine events will be able to quench that thirst. :)

It's random. The horde is probably due to the mission having an Egg Hunt? One of the identified of Egg Hunts is that you're going in hot, into the glyphid nest.

A concerned Dwarf's opinion - Content throttling?

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Originally posted by Theuncrying

Oh I don't mind the multi-layered missions, don't get me wrong. I just don't think that pre-made caves are all that interesting - replaying them after failure just becomes a tedious "left, right, get morkite, platform, get nitra, drill, here comes a wave..." - the unpredictability of DRG feels kind of lost on me and it's too...scripted? And who cares about leaderboards in a coop PVE game?

I was hoping for a system where you could have deep dives with randomised caves and increasing difficulties, so if you're bored of Haz 5, you could tackle a real challenge. That's kind of what I was hoping for. Just a sort of "complete these 2-5 missions in order to get sweet loot and some nice overdrive modules", not "play these two 3 layer missions and come back next week". Oh well.

There seems to have a misconception that the levels are fully handcrafted or premade, they are not really. They are seeded for the week. Meaning it is still generated, but only once for the week. I believe it is intended to be a higher challenge than regular missions (and we are still tweaking and balancing it a bit before release). The concept of Haz don't even fully apply to those Deep Dives. We've seen some experienced Haz 5 players diving into Elite Deep Dives and having fun going back with a better plan and a different build for their team and their class to try and tackle the problem in a different way. Sure, I guess you could say it is a different type of challenge *thinking about* but so far it doesn't seem to be different in a bad way.

And of course Deep Dives are not going to be the only end game feature. Update 26 will still be mostly focused on endgame content. Personally I myself am way more excited about machine events than I was for Deep Dives, but to be ho...

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