What is baffling you? I personally prefer fewer quality games supported for a long time rather than small sh*tty releases over and over. Also, games are getting cheaper and cheaper every year due to inflation, which is not a good thing. Again, as a consumer I perfer less more expensive games compared to a lot of cheap games, or more likely to microtransaction driven games, which are automatically corrected for inflaction.

This is why I believe that someone should make a first step and work towards this being the norm. When I pay rent, I get a letter every year that my rent was increased by X % due to inflation, and basically everything is getting more expensive, why would game devs should stay behind?

Ok, I remember the process with modules quite clearly. In the very old days, I just added modules as a pet project to add more variability to the game, and instantly started to play with that.

In this version, you had beacons and module slots, and all modules could go anywhere.

It very quickly got to the point, where the best and only setups was 12 beacons with productivity modules around an assambler, to maximize the productivity as much as possible (because of the exponential aspect of it with the length of production chain).

It was clear, that it would affect the game too much this way, so we made the first limitation of productivity modules not going into beacons.

We played again, it was better, but in some cases, it was just weird, for example, we had this recipe where you made rocket, and another recipe, which had rocket + some extra explosives as an input to make the explosive rocket. Basically an upgrade recipe. But suddenly, with the product...

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Item transformation is evaluated instantly, but it is cheap, as it is basically once per item stack.

The stack of apples becomes a stack of spoilage, the chest being full or not seems to be irelevant to me.

No, once it gets out of the spoilable area, it is all the same. And when you recycle it, it gets 100% freshness no matter you made it from.

It is a small extra operation in the process of merging two item stacks, it is completely negligable.

You made me unsure, so I just double checked in 1.1, and damaged items average indeed. Try to make 75% damaged belt and 25% damaged belt, mine them into the inventory, viola, you have 50% damaged belts X 2

Freshness is always derived from product.

More or less this. You can almost always research something infinite whatever route you do. There is the steel productivity research, which doesn't even use science production.

Only the materials to build the rockets take minable resources. But with all of the productivity researches and the super rich (and small) gleba resources paches, it seems to be completely negligable. (I didn't have to tap other than the 1st mine on gleba in my 300h playthrough)

Bugfixes

• Fixed a crash when trying to hand-craft recipes that have fluid ingredients.

Use the automatic updater if you can (check experimental updates in other settings) or download full installation at https://www.factorio.com/download/experimental.

It is mostly a consistency thing, as you can use recycler to void other non-burnable items (iron plate for example), so it would be weird if it consumed everything BUT spoilable items.

Also, the recycle to itself can be used to try to increase quality of products which can't be broken into ingredients if you use quality modules for the process.

Exactly. Generally speaking, the game with the expansion is big enough, and if something, we are looking for ways to simplify/shorten it a little because it was almost too much. This means, that at this point anything that adds to the amount of items/steps of things you should do to finish the game needs to have VERY good reason to exist. Refrigirators seems like just more steps, and the mechanics in the core would still be the same.

Yes, it is almost always better to make different types of items for these kind of mechanics. Mainly because all of the game tools you have are design and work based on item types (inserter/splitter filters, the whole logistic system, train interrupts etc)

The general mechanic of recycle says, that when you recycle something that can't be broken into smaller part, the recycler basically works as a "voider" returning only 25% of the incomming items.

Correct, fifo is the mantra :)

You can and you will have!

There isn't a big motivation to make spoilable items in a quality, but spoilable items are ingredients to some very important non-spoilable result items, once you make the final item in time, it is there forever.

The problem arises, when you decide to recycle the item as a way to get it in higher quality. In that moment, you introduce spoilable items into the equation again, and since the recycler results are also randomized (25% of ingredients means 25% of getting an item if there is exactly 1), you will end up in situation when you get only the spoilable part to be re-assembled but the other non-spoilable ingredients don't come in time.

It evens itself out in the long run, as you will eventually have enough of non-spoilabe ingredients accumulated only waiting for the last spoilable ingredient, so eventually it will always process the spoilable part immediatelly.

Long story short, yes I burned/removed a lot of legendary sp...

If you want a reliable factory (you do), you just have to make all the steps of the process to be able to handle things not being consumed and spoiling.

This means, that the lab area just has to be able to deal with agriculture packs spoiling and removing the spoilage automatically.

At this point you just think about the production as X per minute, and you either use it or not, but there is not a big loss of just not using ot for a while (letting it spoil), while you research something else.

I understand it might be psychologically hard to just "throw things away", but in the game, it is comparable to production being backed up, and mines not mining, because there is no more ore to being processed. When the factory gets backed up and stops, it is in practice the same loss as when it works all the time, and sometimes you just throw it away.