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08 Sep

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Originally posted by AntaroNx

Does the endgame become gambling on high rarity parts that otherwise get recycled into another chance of becoming high quality because rng?

I don't like it, and I play gacha games. Hopefully this can be turned off. The module is fine, no need to change it for the sake of change.

I get how the whole "RNG" feels strange at first, but in practice you're mostly not producing single units of anything, rather mass quantities. So in the end it's really just a statistic rather than hoping for something to drop individually.

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Originally posted by MindWorX

To make things clear, the quality content is exclusively part of the expansion. The non-expansion binary works the same internally, it just doesn't allow any mod to define anything other than the normal quality.

This feels a bit icky to me. I get why, they want to encourage more people to get the expansion, but it also means fragmenting mods more since they now have to deal with supporting both vanilla or expansion. Many might just opt to default require expansion. I know it wont impact many, me included, as we will just get the expansion. But it feels like the wrong decision.

Only comparison I can make is something like StarCraft II, where each DLC added new things, but all engine features were still fully available to modders. The only limitation was the use of assets new assets and obviously mods that just replicated the expansion would be removed.

It is actually the opposite, using the same binary means mods don't need separate versions and or need to support 2 different APIs.

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Originally posted by Menolith

The names in particular feel rather out of place. "Epic" and "Legendary" are evocative of your usual fantasy setting which is very much at odds with Factorio's smoggy quasi-dieselpunk aesthetic.

I just found it amusing to have legendary iron plate.

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Originally posted by Weppet

I'm a bit torn on quality. On one hand it could be a fun way to design around absurdly powerful items, on the other it doesn't feel like Factorio. The quality indicator seems out of place too, but maybe it's just a place holder.

How do stacks work now? One stack for each quality?

Yes, quality stacks are independent.

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Hello,
Today we are going to talk a little bit about a big feature in the expansion, Quality!


What is Quality?

Quality is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

What truth?

That you are a noob, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into normal quality. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your factory.

You take the blue module, the story ends, you wake up in your factory and believe whatever you want to believe.
You take the white module, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.


Horizontal versus Vertical...

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07 Sep

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Changes

  • Removed option to capture system mouse cursor when using a controller due to it breaking touch screen input.
  • The temporary virtual cursor shown when using the mouse in controller input mode will now disappear when a controller stick is moved instead of after 1.5 seconds more

Bugfixes

  • Fixed some visual glitches related to LuaGuiElement::auto_toggle and LuaGuiElement::toggled.
  • Fixed that some remapped keys wouldn't work on Linux. ...
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04 Sep

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Since I just got used to plan and execute these kind of changes. I learned to imagine any ideas like that and think about how it would work etc. So far so good, but the problem is, that something you learn to do almost automatically can't be so easily turned off. So whenever I use any software (or system), I can't stop thinking of ways how to improve it, how greatly it would work and the approach to just not accept the state in which things are kicks in. And then I get more and more annoyed by the lack of that feature anytime I use the software which I can't simply change. I'm sure it is not that uncommon, but still, it can get pretty annoying.

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Originally posted by UnGauchoCualquiera

On the the last gif (the lake one)

> always charge at a roboport that is closer to the destination than the robot is

Wouldn't that actually make them perform much worse in the much more common scenario of a perfect grid?

The perception of bots flying over available roboports but continuing on low energy might actually be worse than simply looping back and forth.

Example:

Given a fully covered 5x5 grid and a bot that travels diagonally from 1,1 to 5,5.

If it turns out mid flight at say 3,3 that it doesn't have enough juice it will try to recharge at 5,5 instead of the closer roboport at 3,3 and continue.

The robots always keep some reserve (10% I think), before they try to go for charging, which should probably be enough to make it work in a grid.


01 Sep

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Originally posted by EpicRaginAsian

Wait so is weekly FFF back?

Yes :)

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Originally posted by Deranged40

For these 'smarts' we use a quite simple heuristic, factoring in not just how close the roboport is, but also how many other robots are currently charging there.

/u/factorioteam can you confirm that this will take into consideration "free spots" and not just blindly "how many are charging?" They seem very similar at first, but with modded roboports, we can have way more than 4 robots charging at once. So I just wanted to make sure that calculation will still consider open spots

It is the number of charging slots without any robots, so should work fine for modded roboports with more charge slots

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Originally posted by BraxbroWasTaken

Will a mod be able to adapt to whether or not the expansion is installed w/o requiring it as a hard dependency?

I assume the dependency will be the same as adding the expansion to the mod’s dependency list, so it’ll support optional and hard dependencies? Kinda like how all of the base game’s content is in __base__?

Currently this is not possible.

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Originally posted by mrbaggins

It is quite clear, that there were things in the inventory which Scott just didn't want to show yet, so he just pasted the icon over.

You fool! Their location still tells us where they go in the tabs! Assuming one of the ones between roboports and combinators is the "Real" redwire, there's something there (Another colour? Or maybe coloured lamps or a new combinator. Leaning toward coloured or other variant lamps honestly.)

The other 5 after nuclear fuel are a bit harder. From memory of the inventory/tabs, the only thing after intermediates would be more science packs, then you're into the combat tab, so I'd probably guess new weapons/armor/toys

Wow, I didn't expect this kind of deduction!
There is bunch of things between the science packs and the military stuff indeed, and it is the "Space" tab. I guess that the information that we moved space related stuff (including existing rocket silo and satellite) into its own tab for easier navigation isn't that surprising after all.

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Originally posted by alexbarrett

Will it be possible to buy the expansion DRM-free on factorio.com then register it on Steam, like we did back in 2016?

Yes, as long as steam supports it for DLC (I hope so).

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Yes, it is a strategy. It has its own twist, but if you want to put it in existing genres, strategy seems like an obvious pick to me.
You gather resources, research, build, upgrade, expand, defend, fight enemies for resources and space and mainly properly time and combine these to get the best result.

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Originally posted by AcherusArchmage

Achievements were added June2016 so anyone who owned the game beforehand and either didn't play again, or always played with achievements disabled (often due to certain world settings or with mods) wouldn't have them obtained no matter how easy they were.

Some other games that have achievements that SHOULD be 100%, such as "start the game" are often at 74-95%, even lower if achievements came in at a later date.

Achievements were added specifically for the steam release, so as long as steam players are involved, achievements were there from the start.
The real reason is, that far from all people play (or even finish) the games they bought.
Check achievement for different kind of games, and it rarely goes over 20% of people.

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Originally posted by Weppet

The main problems with big networks right now are (for me): resources get pulled from all over the base and bots migrate, this results in massive travel time and recharge time. I imagined this would be solved by being able to allocate bots to roboports and with the scheduling change. Sure, some resources might still be exchanged between lines of production but only if it's faster to do so, from what I understand.

Or are you also talking about UPS advantages?

Generally speaking, smaller network is somewhat more ups friendly, because there are less robots and charging places to choose from when doing the logic.We can optimise all we want, but I don't think it is possible to get the complexity to O(1) when choosing a roboport for charging for example, so the bigger network will always have some small penalty.

On the other hand, finding where to pick some specific material from actually has O(1) complexity, as we have a special data structure for that since the beginning, which is very nice, but the limitation of the data structure is, that you find "some" place where to drop the item, not the closest one.

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Originally posted by Weppet

I love it, does this mean that we can do bot megabases with one big network instead of many smaller ones? It seems that the queue system could really get rid of the problems that big networks have.

Lot of the advantages of separating networks still hold.

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Originally posted by Darkhogg

Most of these additions are stuff I have at some point thought about, both problems and possible solutions, so I'm really glad they were addressed!

It would be amazing if bots did do some amount of pathfinding, it would not be that hard or complex (computatially sdpeaking) to implement an algorithm that chooses where to go based on max possible distance before needed to charge to some extent.

But at the very least, the game should make sure bots don't start looking to recharge when the can complete their assignment before running out of battery!!!

It would be possible to make robots pathing, but I personally prefer 10 000 beautiful idiot robot children (Thanks for the phrase r/Nicksaurus) rather then 1 000 smart robots.

I find the design which leaves it to the player to make robots more efficient part of the challange. That is why the change doesn't completely solve the lake problem at the end, as the robots would still get a huge speed penalty when going above a big lake without supporting charging places. So making a "bridge" of roboports for them is still desirable, but at least, this won't completely halt your factory.

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Originally posted by alexbarrett

If I understood everything correctly, actives robots will have properties for estimated idle time & position. Does this mean that:

  1. When a personal robot is constructing an entity: the estimated final position will be at the constructed entity's position.
  2. When a personal robot is bringing an item to the player's inventory: the estimated final position will be the player's position.

I assume also that once a task is added to a robot's queue, it will remain there and not get dynamically reassigned.

Does this mean that if a player stands e.g. very close to a full chest and deconstructs it, the game will assign tasks to empty the chest to the personal robots, and if the player then walks far away from the chest the personal robots would then a very long task queue ahead of them? Would the estimated idle time be updated when the player moves?

I don't think that existing tasks get re-evaluated this way, this is why we stated it is only an estimate (heuristic). We tried to hit the sweet spot of being reasonably precise and useful while also simple enough to not hit the performance.