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Originally posted by GaxxD

Just to be clear, I don't put either Fnatic or Splyce above Vit, I just don't think the solo lanes of Vit warrant them being a tier above either Splyce or Fnatic. Personally I'd drop all 3 teams somewhere between A and B tier, as all of them have very glaring issues they need to fix. Vitality need to clean up their macro game, Fnatic need to start playing around solo lanes more (when they started their run in the 2nd part of the spring, they started great, but with each game they were shifting towards bot lane more and more, and at one point you'd see Nemesis roaming bot like 3 times pre 10), and Splyce need to be more confident in themselves, and stop relying so much on 90-10 plays, because those are becoming mythical creatures in the current meta, especially since they are GREAT early game team (Xerxe is a monster), something that not a lot of people pay attention to, because of how slow Splyce tend to play their games.

Originally posted by accept_it_jon

vitality isn't above fnatic and splyce even on a good day

that team only exists to hard smash early games at the start of the split and then struggle heavily against any opponent that's either not going to play like a monkey against them or any team that will just choke them to submission past 20 minutes

i am willing to fight about this and i'm not even a fnatic fan

Originally posted by Rito_heardofgold

So Vedius, would you not agree that it isn't only about having strong solo laners but also about understanding of where you are strong on the map and playing towards that? And isn't Vitality a team that is notoriously stubborn and usually has a very liniar "win condition" (namely having pressure around top lane). I can name you a few crucial mistakes that Vitality has that would prevent them from entering my top 4.

1: They are a terible baron team (I think you understand what I am revering to)

2: Vitality has strong players, play on the same page with each other, but have very poor macro (mostly revering to playing towards the win condition their comp was drafted for and playing out a teamcomp properly).

3: The other good teams (like Origen and Fnatic) have a stronger understanding of their win conditions and what to do with leads or how where to use their strong side when behind.

Those are some (very generic and not to detailed) reasons I think Vita...

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Originally posted by sid1602

Based on your rankings and your reasoning, I assume that you think playing through solo lanes is the way to go and I agree. But do you not think that it is possible to play through bot and have top/mid go even, considering (in MSF case) that the botlane is the strongest side for a team?

Originally posted by GaxxD

To your point about playing through mid and top being the best way to play the game, that was known since last Worlds. And while Jiizuke and Cabo are beasts when on form, Nemesis and Humanoid are coming off a very promising rookie split, and I expect them to be even better. And while on that, you seem to be forgetting, that the best way to get your solo lanes ahead is through the jungle. Both Broxah and Xerxe are 2 tiers above Mowgli, so I'd say the difference evens up in this case. Moreover Vitality has yet to show they know what to do consistently, when not having a huge lead going into mid game. They are all over the map looking for skirmishes for most of the game, often throwing leads because of that. Fnatic and Splyce have much better macro. I just can't see Vit being a tier above Fnatic or even Splyce, unless the game ends at 15 minutes and we're checking stats of solo lanes to determine which team has won. And even then the only clear advantage for Vit is on the top side.

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Originally posted by Rindr0

I can agree with about most of what you said on misfits, but how high do you think they can get if they find this "alignement and agreement" ?

Originally posted by Kuikentje04

How high of a ceiling do you think rogue has? I'm assuming C tier is their starting point and with all those rookies they could improve massively ovee the course of the split.

Originally posted by boinkdog92

This originated in Warcraft 3 back in like 2003 because Alt Q+Q would quit the game. The QQ looking like a crying face isn't why it was used. People back in WC3 days would basically be telling you to quit the game because you were a noob, hence giving you the hot keys to quit the game.

Originally posted by yukine95

(little off topic: are you italian?)

Originally posted by Aishateeler

So we should flame Hanna whenever there's an undocumented change?

Originally posted by alexclow

Oh boy, we're in for a bumpy ride

Jokes aside, I'm glad riot is being transparent about changes. Will people still bitch? Probably but at least we will have an idea on what they are thinking