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So is someone going to photoshop Lee sin with a 2nd health bar and dark souls HUD or do I need to do it?
So is someone going to photoshop Lee sin with a 2nd health bar and dark souls HUD or do I need to do it?
Can we get a breakdown of cheaters PER SERVER? Because Asia is a majority of players. China alone has 29 servers. So if the only statistic you give is is based on totals numbers then it seems flawed and dubious as if you were using Asia's higher cheating statistics to push Vanguard on the remaining players. I would love a graph with each server laid out and each amount of cheaters per rank on each server.
None of the numbers or graphs contain data from outside of riot regions. So no they wouldn't impact the numbers we shared here.
To clarify point 1. I meant a non-Riot game. Lets for example here, say I'm using a trainer on Far-Cry 2; an old, single player game.
After a brief lookup of some I found online, seems like it would be ok. If it’s one that’s just a bundled CheatEngine or other similar products, you may encounter an issue. We’d look to close League during that interaction though, not to ban the individual account.
Perfect thank you ! Visual Studio should be fine too I guess ?
Yep, should be good. If you ever want to try anything yourself though to make sure, we are running in the PBE, if you have an account there.
3 things quickly:
Back to point 6: If, hypothetically, I use a trainer tool on a single player game. Would this be something seen by vanguard and risk a ban? Or will vanguard just whinge crash my LoL/Val game until I close it? Does Vanguard even see this if I don't have Valorant/LoL open?
Does Vanguard run while the LoL client is open or only when a LoL game actually starts?
Does Vanguard run while the Riot Client is running or only during the launch of above Riot games?
If you're using a prohibited third party tool related to League in training mode, there's a good chance you'd still get actioned.
It'll run when the respective clients of the games open, but not Riot Client.exe itself. So, if you are logged in on Riot Client, vgc.exe (which is the actual Vanguard program) launches when you click the Play button for League of Legends and the client pops up, and then closes once you close the client.
Hello there. I used AHK to press down key combinations, there is no logic involved. Is this bannable with Vanguard?
For example, I have my top 3 item slot actives bound to numpad 1-3. I will have Q trigger numpad1, W triggers numpad2, and E triggers numpad3. This way I can "attach" item arrived to certain spell keys.
I do this because I have RSI and struggled to hold the shift key or press further away keys than what is right below my hand.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1c1kgrk/dev_vanguard_x_lol/kz4dl39/ K30 says it better here than I'd be able to. hope that answers what you're wonderin.
Sorry, quick confirmation:
My fiancée who has played valorant does not have TPM 2.0 (They aren't elligble to upgrade to Windows 11 (in the proper method) because of it.) did the requirement change recently in Valorant or is TPM 2.0 not required for League?(We are starting to look at what we can do to upgrade their computer fairly quickly, given the 20 day turnaround if the Vanguard requirement goes live in 14.9 (May 1st))
Thanks!
TPM 2.0 will be required for Windows 11 machines to play League.
(Won't be required for previous versions of supported windows for now)
but that's usually based off of misunderstanding either because of a lack of knowledge or bad faith actors.
I'm seeing parallels between this situation and the COVID vaccine lol
For example there's definitely been a noticeable trend of people claiming they were the victim of a false positive and attempting to create a narrative against Vanguard for League, only upon review to be discovered that they were blatantly cheating.
We're seeing it happen as weird and strange as it is. I just don't understand why people do that.
is there any info on faceit anticheat and vanguard conflicting each other?
i often play a game of CS and then insta go into tft or vice versa
would I have to restart my pc to play a game of league cause I have the other AC activated?
We don't anticipate any issues for you in this case. You shouldn't have to reboot your PC after playing CS in order to play League, the drivers can both co-exist.
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For league WSL2 should be ok for the time being.
Probably the wrong Post to ask this, but will Tools like the porofessor still be legal? I mean, on paper it provides additional informations, so i am not Sure there. Anyone who can help me here?
For the most part they should just all work like you would usually expect. I believe they'll need to make some changes but I'm not the expert on that information so I can't say for certain what exactly. Most of them have already made those changes as well it sounds like from what I'm told just now.
Nothing those do at least from what I'm told will trigger Vanguard.
Read moreIn recent months, as many as 1 in 15 games globally has had a scripter or botter in it, but in some regions, this number is as high as 1 in 5.
This part REAAAAAAALLY needed to be specified if it is in normals, arams, pre-30 games, post 30 games (prolly under normals) or in ranked.
Also, not to mention this under the FAQ section
They used cheating software for another game, and Vanguard unfortunately picked it up.
Didn't they just say that when you don't play a riot game, Vanguard is just back there staying still (menacingly)? Paraphrasing, but that shouldn't be able to happen at all then, if that were true?
Like hell, I can 100% admit that I have used trainers in single player games, and I'm not even ashamed to admit it..and those are 100% cheats, but hell if I would be mad if I got banned by Vanguard for cheating in lets say Xcom (yes they have MP, but f**k, noone plays it for MP :P) or...
This part REAAAAAAALLY needed to be specified if it is in normals, arams, pre-30 games, post 30 games (prolly under normals) or in ranked
It's ranked games actually
Since this is concerning a similar topic: Does using WSL2 and or Visual Studio cause problems in those regards too ? Especially WSL2 since it’s iirc always running by default.
WSL2 should work fine.
Hey you seem like you know what you’re talking about - are keybinds to hardware devices - say binding attack move click to the “A” key, then binding the “A” key to a side mouse button - allowed in league? Sorry to waste your time with a dumb question.
Yeah, remapping like this shouldn't pose any issue that I know of. There are artificial input checks we have in VALORANT that can be blocked, but these aren't applicable to League of Legends, and these remappings aren't "artificial input", just input in a different form.
Read moreI believe most people aren't against the Vanguard itself (besides cheaters of course). People just don't like that something has kernel access. This dev blog is ignoring that, unless you really are a cheater you don't have issues with installing an anti-cheat, the issue is just the kernel access. That is a vulnerability to your OS, whatever you guys say.
Unfortunely, I don't believe there are other ways to circumvent this, since my guess is that probably the cheat programs also work through kernel. I must be saying something completly wrong though, since I have no idea if that's the case.
I understand you guys want to ease the playerbase, and you put several statements on the blog about privacy, but you completly ignored the issue about working on kernel level. There may not be other alternatives, but it's a bit depressing that you don't talk about that concern in this dev blog.
Again, I understand probably (?) most cheats work through kernel, I also want a ...
Hey there,
I think this article we launched around initial Vanguard launch does a pretty good job explaining the exact "why" of kernel mode/Ring 0 driver:
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-null-anti-cheat-kernel-driver/
Global community manager having technical opinions about topics he doesn't understand? What a failure of a response. I would expect nothing better than an immature "bruh"
I just think there are some fundamental differences here in that what works for an MMO versus what works for an FPS or a MOBA. The standards and asks of an anti cheat solution are just vastly different.
Scope of scale is also a factor here with the size of League. Realistically you cannot scale manual detections and enforcement, or automations/detections to counter the scale of the scripting problem for example that League has outside of the kernal level, we've tried. Prevention will ultimately counter the majority of the problem in the long term which is a massive boon that we feel that League needs because we know it works with Valorant.
Sounds good to me.
I'm not sure if you have an answer for this, but I assume it's going to be fine on my PC. But it mentions that Windows 11 might have issues with Vanguard, if Vanguard is running on my PC already, I should be fine, right?
This version of Vanguard is just an adaptation for League, so if it's working with Valorant, it theoretically should be okay, even on Windows 11? Or is this windows 11 issue league specific, and I should look into it? (I probably will regardless, I just wasn't sure how similar Vanguard Valo is to Vanguard League, or are they separate entities.
Yep if it already works for you with Valorant then you should have no issues with League once Vanguard is live.
I trust it.
I'm curious what you guys think of all the nay-sayers on reddit (and elsewhere) that seem VERY AGAINST Vanguard. I feel like a lot of them are just angry cheaters but that's just my hunch.
I've had Vanguard since Valorant came out, and I have no qualms with it. As long as it behaves and lowers the amount of cheaters in a game I like by 1% I'm happy.
Also please don't stop here. Keep making smurfing/boosting/cheating/botting/account selling go away as much as possible. Competitive integrity in soloqueue has been at an all time low in the last 2-3 years. Thanks.
I think its pretty reasonable for people to have this aversion or skepticism. Some of it I personally think is a little hyperbolic or silly, but that's usually based off of misunderstanding either because of a lack of knowledge or bad faith actors. Even still that's understandable. This is quickly becoming the norm when it comes to modern anti cheat because it kind of has to be in order to be effective, that's just the reality. What worked on a game 10 years ago doesn't cut it anymore and it just does far too much damage to competitive integrity. Our ladders at the moment are compromised and we simply cannot manually keep up or iterate fast enough. That's just the cold hard truth.
People had the same aversion to Valorant and people are voicing the same things we saw then on League today. Majority of players won't and don't care, and while that's convenient for us here, I also don't think that's good. Everyone should approach every bit of software they allow onto their machi...
Read moreCan you comment on if it blocks AutoHotkey? I've had anti cheats like Faceit block AHK from running, which is pretty annoying due to how much non-game related stuff like mic mute hotkeys I have running with it
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1c1kgrk/dev_vanguard_x_lol/kz4dl39/ K30 says it better here than I'd be able to. hope that answers what you're wonderin.
Hey. Will apps like porofessor still be okay to use? Otherwise, I need to delete it before vanguard goes live. Also, what about AHK? I use it on another game, to overcome difficulties caused by my disability. For league, I don't use AHK, but I modify input.ini or persistedsettings.json file for that reason. Would that be considered 'cheating' by vanguard? Just looking to put some fears down.
Tools that use the API in an authorized way, like Porofessor, will still be ok to use.
Non-malicious usages of AHK should be ok, especially if it's not actively trying to continually interact with League. You should still be able to modify input.ini and persistedsettings.json regardless, though. Let us know if anything doesn't work as intended!