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Shard value for duplicates is one way to look at rewards, but it implies that a player only values Shards and not cards. That is a good model for the Limited-only player, but the numbers change quite a bit if you are a hybrid player and place value on at least some cards themselves.

It is always great to see players figuring out all the math so quickly! From my spot checks, what I see looks right to me regarding your math (though I could have missed something!).

The tricky thing to account for in rewards is the upgrades, though since we have published the upgrade chances then it should be possible to build the table.

Another thing you might want to consider for your analysis is accounting for agency: if you add in a multiplier to random rewards, but not to wildcard rewards, then you can see how the tables change for players that value random content at different levels compared to an equivalent wildcard.

Great stuff!

It is all based on the win record of the Trial itself, so yup you get it separately for each Trial in an Expedition

Hey there! We wanted to make completing a Trial be a milestone, so what we did is decrease the end of game XP on wins and losses for Expeditions while adding on a big burst of XP at the end of a Trial depending on how many wins you got. This will happen both in Expeditions as well as Open Play, so get those wins!

I don't believe so. I looked at the loot tables and unless it's hooked up in a way I don't understand (which is possible), there's no upgrades on shards.

The region reward order is not exactly the same for all regions, because some rewards are swapped around by a position or two. It's never a huge difference and the total content lines up every 4 levels.

Fair enough :).

We debated a bunch whether we should just include the upgrade rates in that article, but we were hesitant to. The upgrade chances are among the least confident tuning values we have, and, to be honest, is probably one of the most likely places we'd take value out of the system if we need to buff something elsewhere (or if, hopefully not, we've just overtuned things). While we can, and will, communicate that kind of change, it usually causes a bunch of confusion despite our intent to be clear. We wanted to see how much interest there was in the upgrade chances before signing us and players up for that.

Clearly there is an interest to see them, so I'll share them here. That said, THESE COULD DECREASE IN THE FUTURE! These may be overtuned or it may be that the reward value will better serve players elsewhere in the system.

Each of our quests has prerequisite criteria that check against your collection before you can be granted that quest.

For examples liked the one you've pointed out, if you get that quest and don't own one or both of the cards it's a bug and we'll fix them as we find them. For more nuanced cases like a quest to do Overwhelm damage, it may just be a tuning problem since it's debatable where the bar should be there.

You have no idea how much this bugs me...but in terms of actual value break down this is the better way. Sigh.

Fair question...I could have been clearer.

Hitting a Level 13 Vault gets you the increased rewards you're pointing out, but it's also a useful benchmark for how much XP got poured into region rewards each week. A lot of the delta is coming from so much more progress on region rewards each week, rather than the Vault directly.

A lot of Epics do come from upgrades, and they can also be crafted with Shards.

We'll be carefully watching the breakdown of rarities players are getting, from what sources, and lining that up with rarity usage in decks. It'll never be perfect because there's variance in how many of each rarity a deck needs, how players choose to spend Shards etc, but we'll do our best to make sure that rarity feels liked you'd expect. Commons shouldn't really be a problem, Rares should come pretty easy, Epics you probably have to chase a bit, and Champions should be pretty special.

We're definitely thinking about catch up mechanics.

We're still deciding exactly what we want to do, and I'm sure it will evolve over time as well, but we want players to be able to join at any point and feel like they can fully enjoy the game.

We've seen a lot of players estimating rewards for the vault and more, so we're going to release an article with hard numbers. It'll cover region rewards, the vault, our estimates of how much players will need to play to unlock the full set and more.

We're committed to providing equal attention to players around the globe wherever possible, which means I unfortunately gotta keep you waiting for a little bit until we can get the thing translated into all our global languages. Expect to see it next week.

Hey there!
I appreciate your comments, and hopefully I can allay your fears! All of the cards in the game will be obtainable over time for free, be that through getting it from a capsule, using a wildcard, or using shards.

Various cosmetics may have different rules and the purchase options might be more narrow, but we want all gameplay content to be available even if you never spent any money.

There’s an eye icon on the bottom of the expanded card view if you want to see them while in game.

Please submit a support ticket for things like this! As many specs you can include to help us reproduce such things are appreciated.

Our quests generally don't require winning. Winning is inherently more efficient because of the increased agency you have in game, but you can make meaningful progress when losing.

I want to see what we can do about at least mitigating the efficiency of playing the fastest-possible deck. We've talked about this some and it gets pretty gnarly when you start thinking about how to abuse any of the systems that would really help.

We have a design that I think will help, but not sure deck speed will be entirely removed as a factor.

For a lot of players there's an excitement to getting quests that are more valuable than normal...it's a nice mini-jackpot moment for them. As for RNG in the reward system, we're trying to strike a balance, not avoid it. A lot of the rewards you earn in LoR have some element of RNG to them. It's what you buy that has no RNG.

We can see a lot of the behavior you're describing by looking at what players re-roll, when they log out compared to active quest progress etc. A fairly major difference is our ratio of XP from quests and XP for playing biases much more to playing than genre norms. There's still an edge for trying to reroll for only 1500s, but the EV on the margin just isn't very high (100XP when a PvP game win is 250XP).

For your new questions:

1. We've got a couple different directions, we still need to decide which to pursue. Can't share more yet.
2. We don't sell packs. Real money buys Wildcards directly, up to a stock cap each week (...

We'll be doing at least one full reset, but any money spent will be re-granted as Coins. So if you spend $5 now, you'll have a fresh account with $5 of Coins on it after any reset.