Hapa_Fodder

it was NOT simply because it was about CVs.

Also, I mean, I know this is a crazy thought... but like, if people would read some of the rules outlined in the TOS or EULA.... a better understanding would occur. +1

-Hapa

We don't "lock any thread that has anything to do with eula" we only lock threads when they get out of control and there are too many violations to moderate one at a time, or if a post straight up is a forum violation in itself....

If a conversation is constructive and civil, they get left alone, you can see this throughout the forums... there are A LOT of threads that we do not agree with, but it doesn't mean we need to lock or hide them.....

-Hapa

It should be understood that what you're saying is borderline a forum violation as well....

The top end player-base is just as allowed to have their opinions as anyone.

But again, it is ALL IN THE PRESENTATION of said opinions that can change how they are reacted to.

In this case, the feedback from the ENTIRE community drove the change in tier for the CB season. Did this make everyone happy? No, but that won't ever occur, because no matter what we do, someone will be upset, all we can do is keep trying new things.

In the games industry this is very normal, sometimes you hit the mark, sometimes you do not, you learn and you move forward. Some will say that that feedback is "never listened to" or make snide remarks towards developers etc, but that doesn't change the process.

-Hapa

you might want to go back through the thread and read some of the replies, I actually explain this.

-Hapa

Wait, where is that button!?

Nah, I closed the other threads down and any more that open up I will close down and reference back to THIS thread so we have a centralized location to have a HOPEFULLY civil conversation....

And just like @Destroyer_KuroshioKai said, there is NOTHING wrong with doing things like say EHEM running a tier VIII CV with 2 Musashi's.... that is a game mechanic that exist and it is allowed.... but HOW you present that stuff.... well there is your conundrum...

At the end of the day, it's easy, BE CIVIL and BE GOOD to each other.... If you're having to question if your actions MIGHT be a violation.... chances are... they might just be.....

-Hapa

I have been telling people, it is all in how you present what you you're doing.

"REPORT ALL CVs" "GRIEF THE GRIEFERS" these is the EULA violations.

-Hapa

AGAIN:

There is NOTHING wrong with discussing tactics, mechanics, or trying to teach players how to play.

HOWEVER, actively promoting, discussing and trying to promote or discuss griefing players in game IS a EULA violation.

If you have questions beyond that, PM me.

-Hapa

There is NOTHING wrong with discussing tactics, mechanics, or trying to teach players how to play.

HOWEVER, actively promoting, discussing and trying to promote or discuss griefing players in game IS a EULA violation.

-Hapa

If you wish to continue this discussion I am attempting to centralize all these convo's here:

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/222741-moderation-about-game-tactics/

^^^^^this

Where did I ever say that I spend the entire match circling the map border doing no spotting or damage? That is definitely NOT what I do at all. In fact the ONLY time I am near the border is if I am flanking... I have 5000 battles in DDs alone and I often times hunt other DDs, but there is no benefit in me actively being lit because I am being overly aggressive and not being alive at the end of a battle.

How I play DDs and CVs is the same, as a support role ship to help my team get a W, I do not care about whether I am top of the score boards or not (even though fairly often and usually are). I work VERY hard to screen for my battleships and cruisers, spot for my team, area denial with torps and yes engage DDs when they are lit...

I did not address DD v DD interaction, what I was specifically addressing was the OPs discussion about CV v DD interactions.

-Hapa

The modstation is just the install app, you would need to reach out to the MOD MAKERS to ensure that THEY are updating the mods.

-Hapa

Actually, this is NOT correct, this was done because a lot of players would not update their mods, they would just do what I am seeing people mention here which is just move the old mods into the new folder, and VERY often non-updated mods do not interact correctly with an updated client. Instead of waiting for the mod-makers to update their mods so that they function correctly.

It doesn't convenience US to try to push the community to update their mods... If you look at my bug report post about the latest update, I literally have to mention a minimum of 5 times to remove mods and test the client BEFORE putting a bug report in... above is WHY I had to say that and why we did above.

Because realistically using updated mods, should be the correct action. As I did this morning with the one mod I use, I checked to see it is updated and then updated my mods.

-Hapa

I know I will get flak for this (see what I did there?) But I have to say as a DD main I am looking forward to these changes to see how much it improves my game play in a DD.

Because, as I have said many times, CVs seriously and honestly do not bug me... and TBH, as a fairly good DD main, if a CV wants to focus ONLY ME, the whole match, I am going to make them work for it and make them waste the entire match chasing me...

I have literally had battles where this was the case, I noted the CV wanted me dead, so I purposely did things to make him know where I was and then dragged their aircraft away from my team and as a result my team pushed a flank and overwhelmed the enemy.

The average CV driver does not think about the tactics of what they are doing. Looking at a targets location, knowing what that target can do and evaluating whether your time is well spent on that ONE target a whole match can really turn a battle.

Eit...

Sims is a pretty versatile DD! Good torp reload, pretty fast ROF. Just an all around good DD IMO.

GG!

-Hapa

Some of y'all explanations are hilarity!

Mahalo,

-Hapa

Folks,

Since it seems that some cannot have a constructive conversation focused around the OP I'd say this topic is DOA.

You want to have a philosophical discussion about the intricacies of mathematical statistics and their employment, feel free to do so in a PM.

If you are digging so far into player statistics that you are now carrying out a scientific study I think you've missed the mark on how to play a GAME.

-Hapa

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