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Yes we do a variety of both. I might even say that we do a majority of "unorganized" tests.

I feel like a lot of responses are missing all my other points and going right to internal testing. A large takeaway i wanted people to learn from my response is:

No amount of internal testing can perfectly solve this problem. (sure it can improve, though)

Riot or Blizzard have similar issues, even with much larger teams. This is the nature of making subjective, creative products. People are different from eachother.

He was not steamrolling our tests this much. My guesses for why are:

1. He was dying a lot. He has no true escape so stepping out of position against a coordinated team tended to get him killed.

2. We worked together as a team more to counter him or peel him.

I also did forget one major point in the main post.

• We test all new gods at multiple different stages of implementation, and power level (numbers). We had many tests were Tsukuyomi was straight feeding earlier in his development, even with our top junglers like Pon and Khaos playing him, when we tuned him up he started to feel right, but clearly we overdid it and struggled to notice that we overdid it because of our level of coordination in playtests, or because of our memory of earlier iterations of him.

Dangit whyd this have to blow up on saturday and my ONLY day to sleep in each week. Yesterday i was up early and ready to write. Im already quite late to the thread and im watching my son so we gotta keep this one quick, it wont have the time for additional revisions and feedback like ive been doing.

On new god launches, and the design challenges around launching them with the “right” power level and complexity level.

- We do not intentionally ship over-tuned gods. People still like to repeat this because of some older, more vague messaging. New gods are simply hard to estimate their power based on small group internal testing, this is true for a lot of games and for a lot of reasons.

- Tsukuyomi definitely launched stronger than intended.

- The ideal place for a new god to land in winrate stats in our current goals is somewhere near the middle of the pack... say #30 to #60 out of 110 gods. This falls into the place where people are generally stil...

lol, we can never just keep it simple huh? Im obviously not going to reply to any comments in any way that could be considered a spoiler or hint at upcoming gods. so im replying to myself...

Anyway, in the spirit of this week of heavy communication. Here's a few things on new gods, most of this has been stated before, but just a recap:

• There are still LOTS of awesome gods out there, and we can only make so many. Its impossible to get all of the community suggestions. People in this thread already throwing 3+ gods at once. Maybe try to always think about the one god youde be most excited for? Community will always dream up more "top requested" gods faster than we can make them. Thats ok, just we all need to be aware of it.

• We always try to do a mixture of community requested gods and "surprise" gods. Expect a similar combination in future gods, as we feel the strategy has been quite successful. We have a huge set of goals to meet with new g...

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Not much i can do about this unless you have more recent proof of it occurring.

These videos are all too old, and with no recent reports, its safe to assume its fixed.

not at the moment, each map we add to the game would increase The games total file size and update sizes, this could quickly grow out of control if we wanted to support all of them forever.

Its also a lot of work on upkeep, bug fixing, and etc for small amounts of custom games.

its a very tryhard mode, I think it alienated a lot of players

The playerbase for Siege is up since the queue time change and has stayed up, but its still the least popular / least played mode. Nothing else to say about it at this point in time.

Passionate response... but, sorry, no plans for that atm.

Classic Joust seems more popular than S3 Joust, but to each their own i guess haha. I do think all 3 Jousts are strong maps and have unique pros and cons. All 3 Jousts are more fun than Domination thats for sure lol. (i might be a biased tho)

Those are easier to design and bring back than the big dungeons, but the Heimdallr one was quite a lot of work and didnt have very compelling results. No plans for them atm, we are 100% focused on Conquest

it was not

This mode, by nearly every single measurable metric, was one of the least played adventures. If I was going to put them into "tiers" based on actual time spent playing the modes and unique players the modes attracted it would looks something like this:

Top Tier

• Big RPG Dungeons (Herc, Loki)

Mid Tier

• Corrupted Arena (and similar variations)

• Classic Joust

Low Tier

• Horde Mode (Da Ji's adventure)

• Racer

• Domination

• Deathmatch

• Short RPGs (Xing Tians, Fafnirs, Heimdallrs)

• Capture the Flag

Currently, we don't plan on bringing any of these back as full-time game modes because all of them had very bad retention. Meaning that lots of players played them on day 1 or 2, but they were quite often the least popular modes in the game by the end of the month (yes, even the high tier ones had t...

Fun Fact:

Amaterasu's recall animation is roughly inspired by the "Praise the Sun" emote

Both me and the animator who worked on it are huge souls fans

I can't comment on any crossovers likelihood or not, though

Reddit/twitter is usually best

haha fair enough, thanks for the exceedingly detailed report!

gotcha, thanks for the extra testing.

we are planning some lighting changes to that map like we recently did with Arena and Conquest that make the Assault floor a little darker, which should help this.

tbh I don't think I would consider this a bug, nor would I know how to fix it.

This is kind of a staple of video games, if you hover a character or an attack right on the edge of 2 different states, a few things are going to happen.

• the character/attack is going to quickly alternate between either state

• the character/attack is going to pick one state and dead-zone or time-lock you out of the other state

We intentionally chose to go with option 1 so players have more control, but can get in a state where the game essentially tries to check state A or B every frame (60 times a second) - which can result in it changing on you.

So... just pick a side more decisively?

EDIT: it might be possible to make it so the "portal doesnt lie to you" but it is likely occurring due to the reasoning i provided and might not be possible to fix unless you'de prefer a quickly flickering blue/orange targeter. Sorry I could have ...