PhreakRiot

Originally posted by Mazrim_reddit

its more what the game has swung towards, it doesn't have to be some insanely snowballed riven just a 2/0 fiora or irelia with normal bruiser items that are super overtuned (death dance, jaksho, botrk right now, but there seems to always be something) and they just always seem to have disproportional impact from their performance due to how much better bruiser items and runes always are than every other classes.

It never feels like bruisers have to work hard to have 1v5 levels of impact compared to every other class, simply because when they get a small lead all their items are so unfair (both give a ton of damage and make them unkillable) no one can stop them.

Originally posted by Mazrim_reddit

the problem comes from continuing to pump more and more power into bruisers and toplane without actually changing any of the macro or gameplay involvement for everyone else.

So now toplane sits on an island for a bit then solo decides the result for the other 8 people in the game, which is the worst possible scenario.

Originally posted by androidnoobbaby

The fact that you think solo laners with early game agency should be able to hard carry a game like an ADC that needs to be babysitted by a support and doesn't exist before minute 20 tells me everything I need to know about the garbage mentality driving the game's most awful changes. Classes are different for a reason.

Originally posted by Taztingo

I wanted to inverse your statement into a question to get a bit more out of it. I'm not and never will be a game balancer lol.

Should these melee champions be able to hard carry the same way that a Twitch or any other ADC has been able to for like a decade? I have emphasis on same way because of the trade offs between roles.

Also, do you think it's possible or fun to decouple more ADCs from supports? I say more as a safe clause for edge cases such as kindred, graves, quinn, akshan.

Originally posted by bz6

In my opinion its important to have positional power diversity in League. If all agency is streamlined, the game loses a bug chunk of strategy.

That being said, my current gripe with the game is that it feels like you're playing with and vs items, rather than champions. Items are warping kits a bit too much. Some are even giving champions mechanics that belong within a kit, class, or role.

Originally posted by DownloadedHome

What's your opinion on the situation of AD bruisers right now when it comes to their damage output and survivability?

Originally posted by Sandalman3000

I recall some of the meme involved transcendence using the overstacking CDR to add up to a lot of AD. I know Malphite during this time could do a Seraphs + Frozen Heart stack into all AD teams.

Originally posted by ultradoomslaya

Where you around during league of Bork, league of mogs, or league of cleaver? Those felt way worse than now.

Originally posted by LeVentNoir

Thanks Phreak! I'll try it out in my games tonight.

Originally posted by LeVentNoir

Hey Phreak, 800,000 mastery silver jinx here.

What build order do you see Stormrazer on Jinx fitting into? Kraken, Stormrazer, Rapidfire? KS, PD, SR? It doesn't seem to fit in anywhere nciely.

Originally posted by CaptainFlowers22

IT'S ABOUT TIME LET'S GO DASH

Originally posted by Foucz

Yes that is fair, however i do not recall frozen mallet begin good for the slow even as 7th iteam and stormrazor slow is very short, i think stormrazor was good before because it was cheap and the proc did enough damage. ADC mythics are so good that picking stormrazor does not feel like a good option anymore and after laning phase it does not give enough opportunity to be used well.

Originally posted by FlaccidFather15

Don’t forget Cait. Easy trap/net follow up

Originally posted by Razetony

I'm gonna give you a build I think is strong and want you to tell me if I'm calling the next ap shyvanna or going bronze brain.

Crit Ezreal. Essence Reaver > Any mythic (I like kraken) > Navori Quickblades (Q is 1 sec CD on hit) > Storm razor. I know Q can't crit, but with Navori you can stack the attack speed passive up so you aren't just relying on Q damage like the Divine Sunderer/Muramana build.

Originally posted by Needleburst3

Why would jinx or tristana ever build stormrazor over PD 2nd why would jhin ever not build rfc 2nd when it’s a staple item that prevents inting

Originally posted by sd_pinstripes

But can't you just go Krakens --> BF Sword --> PD/ RFC ---> Finish IE

Originally posted by Beerspaz12

Stormrazor is actually strong and has several very good users, such as Jinx

Would I buy it second as Jinx? I feel like that's my zeal spot, then IE, LDR and likely BT. Am I Jinxing wrong? I mean my winrate and rank says I am but I still want to read you say it

Originally posted by Foucz

slow cannot really be a big deal enough if none of those champions build frozen malllet when it existed

Originally posted by UNOvven

What are you basing this on? Looking at Jhin, I can't see him wanting an item that has such meh stats for him over either collector (the biggest raw damage spike for Jhin early on) or RFC (movement speed is too good), and by the time you can get it as your fifth item, you dont really value the slow. Tristana and Jinx also dont seem like they would want Stormrazor, they want raw attack speed, and then IE and armour pen, and again, at fifth item stormrazor is just not worth it.

Originally posted by darksidedearth

have you guys considered readding statikk shiv? i know me and a lot of other adcs would love to have it back, ik it had a soft return through hextech drag but the concept was so fun

btw why did yall remove it in the first place?