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04 Feb

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I did say future update and not next update ))


So who knows (oh wait I do))) )

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No spesific vehicles have been confirmed. We already mentioned the CBT would start in the next major. Not really the point I was making ))

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Absolutely nothing vehicle wise has been 100% confirmed yet for the next major my dude.

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If you have enough information to meet the criteria, you can submit a suggestion topic for a vehicle.



It's a different vehicle and one that was never built. It never got beyond mockup and a few parts built. As we have already explained, based on the current information, it's not viable to add and does not meet th criteria.



The tank did not exist outside of paper.


We need only compare it to the Flakpanzer 341. Which was a Panther that existed, the guns that existed but only a mockup turret and was removed from the game already for that reason.


The P.44 didn't even get to that stage, has even less information and as such there is no real chance of it coming .



Let's stay away from the conspiracy theories please and stick to facts.
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03 Feb

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Helicopters have significantly less vehicles to research within a given tree, so groupings are far less likely.

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The gap is covered currently by other aircraft in the German tree. So it's not a priority right now, but possible things may come over time.

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It's not being removed from any current lineup possibilities, so there is no new gap created by its rank move. Germany already have several good aircraft around that BR.

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It would depend on the level it reached to depend on if it's viable for suggestions. But again, suggestions are just that and are only ever passed for consideration following the famework set for vehicle.


We don't allow or pass vehicles that are mockup or incomplete to a certain level.


Regardless, this isn't on topic and it's been covered. The guidelines are clear.

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We don't and haven't for some time:



People are also free to make suggestions within those guidelines. Ultimately it's the developers who decide.

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Ships are an entirely different matter and we have previously explained in past Q & As our policy on them.

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I don't think there is any need to go further down this rabbit hole.


Grey areas like that depend on exactly how unfinished and how much information is available to sufficiently show it. But this isn't on topic and there is no reason for this to continue here.


02 Feb

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No. We will always aim to use historical vehicles such as those from lend-lease, post war purchase or other means. Captured vehicles don't go within the main tree anyway and we don't do many of those nowadays anyway.


Germany also has one of the largest and most complete trees and has plenty of jets around that rank and BR.


Mock-ups / Paper are no longer considered.

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Those were all added years ago and as we have explained several times now, we no longer plan to introduce any further paper / mock-up vehicles and even took steps to begin removing those that can be replaced: https://warthunder.com/en/news/6317-development-changes-and-optimization-in-the-german-tech-tree-en


The fact that some have never found replacements or were added in a time where they were both wholly necessary for balance (as simply no alternatives existed) and still exist in game is not an excuse or justification to add any further, when we have explained the situation.



Re.2006 was never completed and never flew. Therefor it wont be added to the game under current plans.


Ostwind II and Bf 109Z were ...

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This has nothing at all to do with this topic. You can submit suggestion topics for those that don't already have one. Re.2006 was an abandoned prototype and wont be added. It never flew.

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We have hundreds of prototypes in game, again nothing is new here.

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If a vehicle actually existed and was used in active testing, then its not a mock-up but a prototype.


By sufficient testing, we don't mean a wooden mockup having wind tunnel tests. We mean proof it was actually built and tested.

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It will be the next one due yes, but no ETA we can provide at this time.



The Ostwind II was a fully built prototype. Not a mockup.

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We haven't introduced paper or mockup vehicles for some 2 years now. It's not really new.

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The model was completed before the change in policy and it was only ever distributed through a limited time event. It's almost non existent and certainly no more than the already removed vehicles.


What about (insert existing vehicle) is also not a good excuse to add even more, when we have said we do not wish to introduce such vehicles anymore and have already started removing some.



This is not a good comparison at all.


The modern vehicles we have in game all exist(ed), in service/tested or have fully built prototypes. There is also sufficient source material on all of them to model them with a reasonable level of accuracy in terms of performance without any classified material.


Compared to tanks that did not exist in realty beyond wooden mockups, paper drawings or a few singular components. There is no comparison here ...

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